Hello all,

I'd like to look into this a bit more and see if it is possible (without
sacrificing anything important) to use a dictionary as a word list.

Integrating a dictionary service into text views would be a good idea. I
also would like to have a dictionary as a panel which shows the
definition (assuming there is one) of whatever word is under the current
selection.

Yen-Ju Chen wrote:
> On 6/7/07, Isaiah Beerbower <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I'm not sure if it's in the plans yet or not, but I've been thinking
>> about having a dictionary/spelling panel that replaces the GNUstep
>> spelling panel. My idea is to combine a dictionary with the spelling
>> checker, because they really ought to be together. I'm not sure how
>> DictionaryReader.app works, but some of it's code may be reusable. I am
>> equally ignorant to the licenses of all those *spell projects, but they
>> could be useful as well.
>>
>> I'm not sure what free dictionaries there are out there, but Wiktionary
>> looks pretty cool to me...
> 
>   Having dictionary and spell checker together is a good idea.
>   But I would like to have it independent from network.
>   In another word, it would be nice to have a local copy of data.
>   I am one of the people who do not have constant network.
>   It would also be nice to use existing dictionary/spell database.
>   Otherwise, there is no way for me to write a English-Chinese
> dictionary just for that.
>   And for spell checking the speed is something important than dictionary.
>   A dictionary with spell-checking is a very good idea,
>   but a spell checker with dictionary is not that useful.

Very true. When you're checking a document's spelling, you're not as
interested in each word's meaning.

David Chisnall wrote:
> The spell checking, I believe, is exposed through the services system.
>
> I agree with Yen-Ju that we need offline dictionary access.  If you
> look at the way OS X does this, dictionary and spell checking are
> both handled as services, with a standard UI added to text views (new
> ones could possibly be done as categories on NSTextView by Étoilé?).

I like the way Mac OS X integrates the dictionary into their text views.

> In principle, I think it's a great idea.  In practice, there are a
> few issues.  I see a few differences between a spelling word list and
> a dictionary:
>
> 1) Users add to their own wordlist.

Each user gets there own dictionary which they can edit at will. This is
where a user's added words will be put.

> 2) Wordlists usually contain some strange markup to indicate
> permutations (e.g. plurals).

And how does a dictionary figure that sort of thing out?

> 3) Dictionaries have definitions.

How would this affect us?

> In some cases, it might be possible to share data between the two,
> although I am not certain (the kind of format used in a wordlist is
> generally more suited to fuzzy searching than a dictionary, but it
> might not matter).

Right.

> I would suggest that adding the ability to support multiple data
> sources would be a good feature for a dictionary.  I believe dict.org
> has an out-of-copyright version of MW you can download, which would
> be okay for offline use, and connecting to something like Wiktionary
> for online use might also be nice.


Thanks,
Isaiah Beerbower

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