Hi!

On Thu, Aug 09, 2007 at 09:23:36AM -0700, Yen-Ju Chen wrote:
> Below is the short discussion with Guenther, the author of Grr.
> I am O.K. with any choice.
> But I need something which works.

I understand your point and I agree with everything mentioned below.
However, it's still unclear to me which part of Grr doesn't meet the
"something which works"-requirement? In my point of view, it works quite
well. Do you miss any functionality that Vienna provides? Is it the
license?


> I am more a pragmatic person.
> All these grand views of Etoile are great,
> but will not come any time soon.
> Take dock as an example, what do we want to have on the desktop ?
> How about the tabbed shelf people discuss before ?
> There are various discussion here and there,
> but we never reach an agreement.

Very true. Etoile definitely lacks a clear list of goals. The problem
IMHO is that pretty much everything that comed up on the list is agreed
upon, no matter whether it conflicts with any of the previous goals or
not (Dock/Shelf/Whatever). Maybe you should simply make a collection of
the feature ideas, identify conflicting goals and then vote for the
different goals. This would result in a prioritized list of goals.
Etoile simply *can't* implement every single user interface idea on the
internet. You have to drop things to focus on the important aspects.

At the moment, things only get done when single developers decide to
write them. This may also give good results at first, but it won't
give you a desktop system with integrated, cooperating applications.

Best regards,
Günther


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