OYG You dont even know anything still wrote those shitlong paragraphs explaining to them what they should do, judging them being awkward, reinventing the wheel. What's next?
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 12:29 AM, Maxthon Chan <[email protected]> wrote: > Maybe I am not that clear about what it is, but I know that whatever the > current effort of cloning OS X look and feel as described in that render is > reinventing the wheel given Unity have already (partially) accomplished > that. I am new to this but based on what I see from building the thing > (multiple times - I even have a set of shell scripts to check put the > latest LLVM/clang, libc++, GNUstep and Etoile and build all of them) I know > your current progress is quite awkward. > > 在 2013-6-4，上午1:23，OÖM Keeler <[email protected]> 写道： > > You don't even know what EtoileUI is, do you? > > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 12:19 AM, Maxthon Chan <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Since you mentioned that, as what I said there is still some missing >> pieces in Unity that still prevent it from being used as a desktop >> environment for Étoilé as-is. GNUstep already have GTK capabilities that >> can be leveraged but menus cannot be integrated yet. So what EtoileUI >> should do on top of Unity is: >> >> 1) Patch GNUstep's GTK support so that Unity can see menus of GNUstep >> apps (so that Unity will pick it up and take care of bringing it to the top >> bar, showing it almost the OS X way) >> 2) Patch Unity so that it will show the title menu ("Info" menu in >> GNUstep, the menu with app name in OS X) in the OS X way, >> 3) Patch Unity so that its Dashboard can recognize and show GNUstep apps >> properly (that is, turning Unity Dashboard into a clone of OS X Launchpad, >> or iOS Springboard), >> 4) Patch Unity so that the tainted Close button works, >> 5) Provide a way for AppKit code to access Unity's notification bar and >> notification system, cloning Apple's API, and if feasible >> 6) Clone Apple's Push Notifications >> >> This will eliminate the need of reinventing the wheels like the current >> EtoileUI as the guys from Unity have pretty much already taken care of >> recreating an OS X look and feel. What EtoileUI need to do is simply refine >> that to the nines. >> >> ProjectManager is too underpowered as of now - I can never get it to work >> so I ended up writing a set of scripts and tools that will translate Xcode >> project files into GNUstep makefiles (themselves are portable) and do most >> the actual coding on OS X using Xcode. >> >> 在 2013-6-4，上午12:59，OÖM Keeler <[email protected]> 写道： >> >> Fork Unity? At least you need to mention the going on projects like >> ProjectManager, how do you plan to integrate EtoileUI et al? >> Stop slamming cake into people's faces coz you think it tastes good. >> Especially when they already have theirs in ovens. >> Wait.. you don't even know what is going on around here do you? Helllooo >> anyone in there? *Snap* *Snap* Please get out of your head! >> >> >> On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 11:30 PM, Maxthon Chan <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I am a serious Ubuntu and OS X user. By Ubuntu 11.10, Unity is >>> introduced. To me, I saw serious similarity between Unity and Aqua of OS X. >>> So my suggestion here is (although a little but absurd) fork Unity and >>> tweak it into a open-source Aqua clone. >>> >>> Current UI shipped with GNUstep still used the old design of NeXT, which >>> seemed a little bit outdated to me. Given the "artistic render" of what you >>> hope Étoilé look like at 0.5, I think maybe Unity could be a good start >>> point. >>> >>> Some existing features of Unity can be leveraged and modified into >>> clones of OS X features on both looks (as they already are) as well as >>> functionality. >>> >>> Unity already have a unified menu bar we can leverage as well as a Dock >>> clone. Those can be used directly. Its Dashboard can be modified into a >>> clone of OS X Launchpad, if we can make it recognize application bundles >>> installed in default places. The main apparent missing piece is a clone of >>> Finder (or a new version of GWorkspace that looks like Finder). >>> >>> So how is your opinion on forking Unity and modify it into a >>> better-looking GUI for Étiolé? >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Etoile-discuss mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/etoile-discuss >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> I used to be a GNUstep developer like them, then I took an arrow in the >> knee... >> _______________________________________________ >> Etoile-discuss mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/etoile-discuss >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Etoile-discuss mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/etoile-discuss >> >> > > > -- > I used to be a GNUstep developer like them, then I took an arrow in the > knee... > _______________________________________________ > Etoile-discuss mailing list > [email protected] > https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/etoile-discuss > > > > _______________________________________________ > Etoile-discuss mailing list > [email protected] > https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/etoile-discuss > > -- I used to be a GNUstep developer like them, then I took an arrow in the knee...
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