Hi Marc, Jeroen Hoppenbrouwers ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is managing the Building Trustworthy Architectures Workshop, I'm organising the VRM Workshop.
Jeroen, is there still a slot available? Cheers, Davor Marc Van Coillie wrote: > Thanks Kick for your proposal. > A part of it seem more close to the morning workshop meeting "S1.1.D: > Building Trustworthy Architectures Workshop" > I put in cc Davor which manage this workshop. > How much time do you need Kick for this presentation ? > > Davor do you have still some presentation slots available for the > morning workshop on Trust Architecture ? > It sounds that the proposal of Kick from Diginotar should be better > place in the morning session. > http://www.epforum.eu/ep2008/conference/programme/ > What is your own felling (both Davor and Kick) ? > > The two last points could also take place in the afternoon session: > " > > - The difference between machine<>machine authentication (WS > security), the envelope, and the actual content containing the end > user identity an attributes. > > - Attribute sharing within user centric systems, main message: > > o The importance of a persistent common unique identifier, which one > to use and the problems we face in practice. (Do you have one defined > within your program?) > > " > They could help to open discussion. > > > Regards, > Marc > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Kick Willemse <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > *To:* 'Marc Van Coillie' <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ; > 'Chris Obdam' <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > *Cc:* Snorri <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > *Sent:* Monday, October 06, 2008 12:33 PM > *Subject:* RE: [OpenID - Eu] OpenID EU participation to Identity > conference in Maastricht and to Liberty SIG HR/EDU SIG > > Marc, > > > > I just registered for the day. > > > > I try to be a general expert on user centric identity. I can tell > something about the openid, but most of the time I look at it from > a broader spectrum. > > > > I could give a short presentation about user centric > authentication within the Netherlands: > > - Current status user centric/ Four corner developments > > - Perception of openID, Pro’s/Cons of user centric > authentication: > > http://www.papierloos.nl/digitale-identiteit/why-organisations-should-implement-user-centric-authentication/ > > - The difference between machine<>machine authentication > (WS security), the envelope, and the actual content containing the > end user identity an attributes. > > - Attribute sharing within user centric systems, main > message: > > o The importance of a persistent common unique identifier, which > one to use and the problems we face in practice. (Do you have one > defined within your program?) > > > > I could go a little bit into the attribute sharing of openid, but > I don’t want to get to technical and I think the main issue within > attribute sharing (SAML, OpenID, Legacy) is the existence of a > persistent common unique identifier. > > > > I don’t know if this is to much, fits the workshop contents. Just > let me know what you think about time and content. > > > > Could you please send me the other topics to be discussed within > the workshop? > > > > Kick > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Kick Willemse > > Product Manager > > e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > weblog: http://www.papierloos.nl <http://www.papierloos.nl/> > > > > DigiNotar B.V. > > Vondellaan 8 > > 1942LJ Beverwijk > > telefoon: 0251-268888 > > > > > > *Van:* Marc Van Coillie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > *Verzonden:* maandag 6 oktober 2008 11:28 > *Aan:* Kick Willemse; 'Chris Obdam' > *CC:* Snorri > *Onderwerp:* Re: [OpenID - Eu] OpenID EU participation to Identity > conference in Maastricht and to Liberty SIG HR/EDU SIG > > > > Hi Chris and Kick, > > you haven't yet register for your participation to the launch > meeting of the Liberty HR-EDU SIG included in the ePortfolio and > Digital Identity conference in Maastricht on 22 October. > > > > Could you please create your account on the conference management > system: > > https://www.conftool.net/ep2008 > > We have put in place a specific discount code which will ease the > registration process and give you directly free access for the > workshop day on 22: > > PaRtNeRTaS3 > > A quick reminder: one of the main concrete issue for this first > meeting of the HR-EDU SIG will be to present the Europass HR-XML > CV, its binding as a new Liberty ID-SIS (with the demo of the > UniversalCV project) and the discussion on its possible binding > using the OpenID2 attribute exchange specs. > > > > If you have any question or any suggestion for presentation during > this workshop don't hesitate. I guess that a short presentation > given status of OpenID in NL with a short introduction of the > OpenID attribute exchange specs should be very interesting for the > participants. > > Here is the conference programme : > http://www.epforum.eu/conference/programme > > > > Hope to see you there, > > Best regards, > > Marc > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:* Marc Van Coillie <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > *To:* Kick Willemse <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ; Snorri > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ; 'Chris Obdam' > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > *Sent:* Thursday, September 25, 2008 2:30 PM > > *Subject:* Re: [OpenID - Eu] OpenID EU participation to > Identity conference in Maastricht and to Liberty SIG HR/EDU SIG > > > > Hi, > > perfect, could you please create your account using our > conference registration system: > > https://www.conftool.net/ep2008 > > And keep me in touch when you have done it, so I will be able > to add you in the list of free entry for the workshop. > > If you wish to attend the rest of the conference (on 23 and > 24th) and/or the social dinner (on 23), I couldn't > unfortunately give free access to the whole event so please > then register first for these additional days using the > following discount code : SpEaKeReP08 > > > > Kick have you already put in place attribute sharing within > your system ? If yes could you give me more information (what > is the data model used, is it using openid or LA ID-WSF ??), I > could manage the agenda if needed to include a short > demonstration based on your implementation. > > > > Hope to see you there. > > Regards, > > Marc > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:* Kick Willemse <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > *To:* 'Marc Van Coillie' > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ; Snorri > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ; 'Chris Obdam' > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > *Sent:* Thursday, September 25, 2008 10:00 AM > > *Subject:* RE: [OpenID - Eu] OpenID EU participation to > Identity conference in Maastricht and to Liberty SIG > HR/EDU SIG > > > > Marc, > > > > It is fine with me to join on the 22th of October. I have > to investigate on the e-portfolio topic. > > > > Attribute sharing within SAML, OpenID or Liberty I am a > familiar with, although the main focus within the market > is on establishing authentication (So only sharing one > unique identifier) > > > > @Chris, it would be a nice opportunity to have a chat on > the current openid developments in the Netherlands. Maybe > we can drive together to Maastricht. > > > > Kick > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Kick Willemse > > Product Manager > > e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > weblog: http://www.papierloos.nl <http://www.papierloos.nl/> > > > > DigiNotar B.V. > > Vondellaan 8 > > 1942LJ Beverwijk > > telefoon: 0251-268888 > > > > > > *Van:* Marc Van Coillie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > *Verzonden:* woensdag 24 september 2008 21:12 > *Aan:* Snorri; 'Chris Obdam' > *CC:* Kick Willemse > *Onderwerp:* Re: [OpenID - Eu] OpenID EU participation to > Identity conference in Maastricht and to Liberty SIG > HR/EDU SIG > > > > Hi, > > welcome Kick and Chris, > > I guess Kick that I've already spoken with one of your > Diginotar colleague during the EIC event in Munich last April. > > > > The main contribution expected for this day (22 October) > is during the afternoon workshop with the LA HR-EDU SIG. > My aim is to achieve at least a consensus regarding the > European CV (Europass promoted by the EU commission and > their Cedefop agencies). We have already done a draft > binding using the HR-XML schema and using the Liberty > ID-WSF layer to exchange applicant data safely from one > web service to an another. > > This is tested in the French 'Universal CV' project > (http://www.cvuniversel.org/). > > We have developped a web service that is able to > interoperate with other CV formats (such as the Kennisnet > IMS eP format in NL, the German CV, the iProfile UK (more > than 2 million CVs in UK), the hResume microformat (used > by linkedin)) > > It should be possible to use the same CV XML Binding with > the OpenID attribute exchange specs in theory, we will be > quite interested to have your opinion on this topic during > the day. > > The European Europass strategy is also using other model > in addition to the CV, the diploma supplement (DS - all > european student citizen is already able to ask to his > university to deliver it, but it is mainly paper based), > the certificate supplement (CS - for formal training), the > Language portfolio (LP - to define our capability > regarding different EU languages) and the mobility pass > (MP - linked with Erasmus and other EU mobility programs). > > So it should be interesting to discuss also how some of > these others models could be supported by openID or LA specs. > > In Europass, both the CV and the LP are managed directly > by the EU citizen himself, the others (DS, CS, MP) are > managed by other institutions but it should be needed that > the citizen could manage the way that these information > related to himself are exchanged by different systems. > > > > Hope this could help to understand better the aim of this > workshop. > > Regards, > > Marc > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:* Snorri <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > *To:* 'Chris Obdam' <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ; > 'Marc Van Coillie' <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > *Cc:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 24, 2008 5:35 PM > > *Subject:* RE: [OpenID - Eu] OpenID EU participation > to Identity conference in Maastricht and to Liberty > SIG HR/EDU SIG > > > > I add Kick in the loop… > > Maybe he can be interested? > > Regards > > -Snorri > > > > *De :* Chris Obdam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > *Envoyé :* mercredi 24 septembre 2008 14:01 > *À :* Marc Van Coillie > *Cc :* Snorri > *Objet :* Re: [OpenID - Eu] OpenID EU participation to > Identity conference in Maastricht and to Liberty SIG > HR/EDU SIG > > > > Marc, > > > > That shouldn't be a problem. In which way do you want > me to represent and participate during that day? > > I am not that familiar with ProjectLiberty though... > > > > With regards, > > > > Chris Obdam > > > > > > Op 24 sep 2008, om 12:45 heeft Marc Van Coillie het > volgende geschreven: > > > > Hi Chris, > > I'm contacting you on behalf of Snorri. > > We are organising next October in Maastricht a > Conference on ePortfolio and Digital Identity. > > http://www.epforum.eu/ep2008/conference/programme/ > > On Wednesday 22nd we will have a full track on > trusting architecture, identity federation and > especially with the launch in the afternoon of a new > Liberty SIG to study identity issues for HR and EDU > services. Cross interop between OpenID and Liberty is > also in the concern of this SIG. > > http://wiki.projectliberty.org/index.php/HR-EDU_SIG > > > > Will you be interested to participate to represent > OpenID during this day ?? > > As our organisation is both a member of Liberty and > OpenID Europe and involve in the organisation of the > whole event it will be more difficult for me to take > position regarding OpenID specifications. > > > > Best Regards, > > Marc > > > > Marc Van Coillie > CTO > EIfEL http://www.eife-l.org/ > Membership: EFQUEL, Europortfolio, HR-XML (leader of > Europass WG), IEEE LTSC (RDC WG), Liberty Alliance > (sponsor member), OpenID Europe > Expert for the CEN/ISSS WS LT > -------------------------------------------------------- > Upcoming events: > International ePortfolio and Digital Identity > Conference, Maastricht, 22-25th October 2008 > : http://www.epforum.eu/ > eLearning Forum, Paris 19-20th January 2009 > : http://www.ilearningforum.eu/ > Recognition and Accreditation of Competencies Forum, > Paris 19-20th January 2009 : http://www.racforum.eu/ > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:* Snorri <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > *To:* 'Marc Van Coillie' > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 24, 2008 12:05 AM > > *Subject:* RE: [OpenID - Eu] OpenID EU > participation à la conf IDentité de Maastricht et > au SIG RH/EDU avec Liberty. > > > > Bonjour Marc, > > Oui et en ce moment je suis un peu débordé avec ma > candidature au poste de ED de la fondation US > > www.openid2009.org <http://www.openid2009.org> > > > > Bravo aussi pour ton travail… > > Je ne suis pas disponible avant quelques semaines > (une épaule cassée que je dois reposer) > > Essaye de contacter Robert OTT de ma part > (suisse), si son déplacement peu être > payé… ? [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Ou Chris Obdam qui habite déjà aux > Pays-Bas [EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Bien sûr sois libre d’utiliser les logo d’OpenID > Europe comme tu le souhaites… > > Est-ce que ceux sur le site sont suffisant ? > > > > Bien à toi > > > > -Snorri > > > > *De :* Marc Van Coillie > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > *Envoyé :* mardi 23 septembre 2008 17:41 > *À :* Snorri > *Objet :* [OpenID - Eu] OpenID EU participation à > la conf IDentité de Maastricht et au SIG RH/EDU > avec Liberty. > *Importance :* Haute > > > > Bonjour Snorri, > > Bravo pour ton travail afin de stabiliser le côté > légal du chapitre, pas facile... > > > > De notre côté nous avons avancé pour > l'organisation de la conférence ePortfolio et > Identité Numérique à Maastricht, fin Octobre prochain. > > Il y aura un track le mercredi 22 sur les > problématiques de sécurité, de confiance. > > http://www.epforum.eu/ep2008/conference/programme/ > > L'après midi il y aura la première réunion de > lancement du nouveau SIG HR / EDU avec Liberty > Alliance. > > La participation à ce SIG est ouvert à tous > (membre ou non gratuitement). Le but est aussi d'y > étudier l'interop de services RH / EDU (comme le > support du CV Européen) entre archi Liberty et > d'autres comme OpenID: > > http://wiki.projectliberty.org/index.php/HR-EDU_SIG > > Souhaiterais-tu participer comme représentant > d'OpenID Europe ? (Je peux t'inviter gratuitement > pour la conf) > > Si tu ne peux pas venir à la conf, dis moi si tu > vois quelqu'un qui pourrait représenter la > fondation. Et dis moi aussi si tu veux que je > t'inscrive sur la liste et/ou que je mette le nom > d'OpenID Europe dans le wiki. > > > > On avait parlé aussi de la participation/support > d'OpenID Europe à la conf de Maastricht, est-ce > toujours possible ? > > Si oui y-a-t-il un logo OpenID Europe que l'on > peut utiliser sur le site pour ajouter OpenID > Europe comme organisation partenaire ?? > > > > N'hésites pas à m'appeler pour en parler, je suis > chez moi cette semaine: > > Fixe: 0950608801 (ou le 0298678801 si l'autre > numéro ne passe pas) > > Mobile : 0687787617 > > Skype : marc-eifel > > > > A bientôt > > Marc > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:* Snorri <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ; [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 23, 2008 2:34 PM > > *Subject:* [OpenID - Eu] OpenID Europe > Recognizes and Accepts the OIDF LocalChapters > Policy > > > > Dear Trademark Committee, > > Dear Raj, Shreyas, David and Bill, > > > > On June 23, 2008 I have personally assigned > all registered OpenID brand names presently > protected in Europe (in 27 countries) over to > OIDE, in exchange for the nominal amount of 1€. > > > > Today, OIDE recognizes OIDF’s Local Chapter > Policy as one of the “Continental Chapters” > and joins OIDF to continue to work jointly to > the global work which remains to be done, > united in the supreme interest of the Community. > > > > I am hoping that this new unity of purpose > will allow us to finalize a Worldwide > Trademark Policy, using as examples these > drafts > http://wiki.openid2009.org/OpenID_Trademark_Policy > ethttp://wiki.openid2009.org/OpenID_Logo_Policy. > > > > Other questions remain as to the granting of > licenses to Local Chapters (thank you, David); > I am referring in first instance to Japan. > This granting of licenses is currently under > study, so as to enable us to set up a > simplified, on line process. > > > > We are hereby confirming that OIDE, as a > “Continental Chapter,” agrees to the _OIDF > Local Chapters Policy_, as approved by the > OIDF Board on May 8, 2008. > > > > Here is the information pertaining to our > “Continental” Chapter: > > > > a) The organizers are Snorri Giorgetti (Chair) > and 28 > Representatives http://www.openideurope.eu/team/ > > > > b) The URL of the Foundation > is http://www.openideurope.eu/ > > > > c) The region is Europe, and it presently > covers 43 countries > > > > d) The name of our Foundation is "OpenID > Europe" (OIDE) > > > > I have just listed “OpenID Europe” at this > location: http://openid.net/foundation/chapters/ > > > > Best regards, > > > > -Snorri > > > > Copy: Scott, Johannes, Mike, Nat & Mark > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > eu mailing list > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/eu > > > _______________________________________________ eu mailing list [email protected] http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/eu
