I think i told someone i would send them a link to this, but i forgot whom. Here it is ; most X-users will find it worthy of some note. http://www.advogato.org/article/130.html -- It's a hard work, being a network pusher. Your customers beep you in the middle of the night, hungry for another fix. But, what can you do? Customer satisfaction and all that crap... Pays good, though. --Ingvar the Grey, in the Monastery