On 1/29/02 9:16 AM, "Jim Beard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'm trying to get into doing some Cocoa programming, but I ran into a
> snag, I can't find a good resource editor.  I don't run System 7 at all,
> so I can't run classic mac apps, which is fine with me.  But I've only
> found two resource editors for OS X.  One was 250$ commercial app, the
> other a shareware thing that didn't seem to work for me.  So thats about
> as far as my Cocoa programming has gone.  Apple has a lot of sample code
> up tho if your interested in learning.  I'm looking forward to doing a
> bit of work in objective C.

By resource editor, you mean like ResEdit? There's not really a need for
ResEdit under OS X because OS X's file structure is completely different.
Everything is hacked via plists (XML-based config files) now, using the
/usr/bin/defaults tool or the GUI Plist editor included with OS X. If I'm on
the wrong boat here, correct me, I may be able to help.

I don't use Classic ever, really, although I do boot into OS9 to do music
stuff, for the time being. I only became an Apple convert after they
released OS X 10.1 (ie: the first usable release imo)

I've done some Cocoa programming, but am more interested in system-level
stuff. Objective C is funky and takes some getting used to (at least to this
Java programmer). Project Builder and Interface Builder are just godly
development tools.

The Java-Cocoa (Cocoa APIs abstracted for use in Java) stuff is great, and
you might look into that. Not really a noticeable speed difference between
Cocoa and Java-Cocoa.

The O`Reilly Cocoa book is pretty crummy, and I've learned almost everything
off of Apple's Dev site and also the "Cocoa Dev Central" site
(www.cocoadevcentral.com).

 > On another note, I was wondering if there was enough community support
> to start a OS X users group list.  I could advertise a little around
> school and might be able to drum up a user or two there...

I don't really go to user group meetings often, but a list might be cool,
though this list is still "UNIX-related" (as opposed to Linux only) too,
isn't it? If you're looking for some good OS X related lists, check out
http://lists.apple.com . They have good user-level and development-level
lists of all sorts there, and at this point in time, they have an excellent
signal-to-noise ratio.

Jacob

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