Perhaps, or perhaps not. I dont think Dex is a bad guy or anything. Ive just 
gotten tired of the whole god rant, and a lot of the things dex has said 
recently. I think maybe dex is frustrated, his frustration is manefesting 
itself in inflamatory and off topic things he's saying (well... typing..).
Perhaps I shouldnt have engaged in any of the off topic converstions, perhaps 
I or anyone on this list should have said something a long time ago. If 
anyone on this list is unsure what its about, let me remind you. This is 
Linux Activism, or activism as it pertains to linux (I think expanding it to 
GNU related, or even *nix related isnt off topic, but religion and drugs are 
absolutely off topic (unless you can explain how dex's marahuana cigarette is 
GNU!)
Heres the official statement about what the eug-lug list is for:
The email list for Unix, *BSD, GNU/Linux Users in the Eugene/Springfield area. 
We hold clinics to help new GNU/Linux, Unix and BSD users. We have meetings 
where we demonstrate and discuss topics and applications. If you're a local 
Linux user, or just want to learn (teach) more about Unix and GNU/Linux, join 
the list and check out the wit, wisdom, whimsy and banter of Eugene's Free 
Software community.
Do you see anything there that says we talk about god? or drugs? (medicine?). 
or faith or religion? 
        I tried to find the explanation of the linux-activism list... but couldnt 
fine one.
        So, In general, I think maybe I should be more tolerant, but in this case, I 
think maybe we should have tried to get things back on topic a long time ago.

Jamie


On Wednesday 08 January 2003 03:52 pm, Jim K wrote:
:     I am not trying to start a war with this message.
:     I have heard many conversations about various individuals "gods" at
: Euglug meetings and on Euglug and activism lists. Most of the "gods"
: represented are not my own understanding of God.
:  Perhaps we need to be more tolerant of what other people put their trust
: and faith in, and open to the ideas of others.
: Jim K
:
: ----- Original Message -----
: From: "Linux Rocks !" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 2:02 PM
: Subject: Re: [Eug-lug] What euglug is about (was: Is there anybody
: besides..)
:
: > Dex,
: > If you want to leave you can leave... If you want to complain, then maybe
:
: you
:
: > should leave the group. If your interests are specific to:
: > Eugene, Unix, GNU, Linux User Group, this is the place, this is not the
:
: place
:
: > to talk about god, and your specific ideology.
: > I seriously doubt you will find any one group that is exactly what you
:
: want,
:
: > unless you start your own cult.
: > Certainly statements like "But since you insist on putting yourselves
:
: first
:
: > and pursuing the illusions of the world rather than the perfect will of
:
: God"
:
: > arent going to make you any friends, nor will it convince anyone that
: > they should even want to listen to anything you have to say.
: >
: > Jamie
: >
: > On Wednesday 08 January 2003 01:45 pm, Dexter Graphic wrote:
: > : Thanks for all your advice, technical and otherwise. I've learned a lot
: > : from this group, but I don't feel that I belong here. We have different
: > : goals. I'm here to serve and uplift all of humanity, but you're here to
: > : indulge and empower yourselves. If you knew God you would serve with me
: > : bringing the gifts of free software and open computer technology to the
: > : people in need: the poor, the old, the young, and those who struggle to
: > : overcome the injustice of military, economic, and political oppression.
: > : If you valued goodness, truth, and beauty more than your own lives then
: > : we could learn, work, and laugh together, even while enjoying the reign
: > : of universal family love in our hearts and minds--the kingdom of heaven
: > : on earth! But since you insist on putting yourselves first and pursuing
: > : the illusions of the world rather than the perfect will of God, there's
: > : very little compatibility between us. I will go and leave you in peace.
: > :
: > : Dexter Graphic -- Dedicated to presenting things as clearly as possible
: > :
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