Bob, can you give us a big-picture view of how this compares with LVM?

tnx,

   Ben


On Thu, 6 Nov 2003 11:00:01 -0800
Bob Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

| Last night I went to SVLUG[1]'s meeting in San Jose with a friend.
| The featured speaker was Wim Coeckaerts from Oracle.  He discussed the
| Oracle Cluster File System (OCFS).
| 
| OCFS is a filesystem for Linux that works on shared disks.  It works
| over Fiberchannel, shared SCSI, or FireWire.  FireWire is just a hack
| (but a _cool_ hack!).  Fiberchannel and SCSI are the technologies that
| Oracle supports.
| 
| I didn't find OCFS itself very interesting.  It's not a general
| purpose filesystem, it's just the minimum needed to support Oracle on
| shared disks on Linux.  They're working on version 2.0, which will be
| more generally useful.  I was more interested in what Wim told us
| about Oracle's Linux commitment and advocacy.
| 
| Oracle has recently shifted its base development platform from Solaris
| to Linux.  That means the core developers are developing Oracle on
| Linux, and a porting group makes it work on Solaris.  It also means
| that 9,000 developers at Oracle now have Linux boxes on their desktops
| and in their labs.
| 
| Oracle recently pressured a SCSI card manufacturer (maybe Emulex?) to
| open source their drivers.  They said, in effect, "Oracle has to be
| able to support Linux for our customers.  We can't do that with binary
| drivers.  Until you have open source drivers, you're not on our
| recommended hardware list."  The manufacturer has now released its
| drivers under GPL.
| 
| I wish somebody would do that to Nvidia.
| 
| Oracle's long term goal is to have all software that they depend on
| available as open source, so their customers aren't dependent on any
| closed software other than Oracle.  They will write whatever parts
| aren't available elsewhere.  OCFS is the first step.  They are also
| looking at a couple of other categories.  I think he mentioned cluster
| management software and cluster volume managers, not sure what else.
| 
| So Oracle "gets it" in a big way, but they haven't been as vocal about
| their Linux commitment as IBM.  It will be very interesting to see how
| this plays out.
| 
| Oracle's open source web site is http://oss.oracle.com/ .
| 
| SVLUG met in a large hall on Cisco's campus.  There was seating for
| about 250-300 people, but less than half the chairs were full.  They
| had a big screen projector and a sound reinforcement system.  Very
| different from EUGLUG's meeting space at 43 W. Broadway. (-:
| 
| PenLUG[2] is meeting next Thursday night on Oracle's campus; maybe I
| can go to their meeting too. (-:
| 
| [1] Silicon Valley Linux Users' Group.  http://www.svlug.org/
| [2] Peninsula Linux Users' Group. http://www.penlug.org/
| 
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