Sorry, Bob -- I wasn't trying to remind you = ) Some of the content of the newsletter, combined with my mood, brought that on; no beef with your posting... it is definitely about linux and pertinent to the list. I prolly should have put my response on activism! Hopefully "socially constructive" replies will end up there since our group (including ME) tends to address broader issues when it comes to promoting liberating alternatives in general, beyond tech. ( =
regards, Ben On Wed, 04 Feb 2004 23:29:41 +0000 "Bob Crandell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | The only reason I posted it here was because it is part of Linux Pipeline | Newsletter. I think it's a good reminder that "You catch more flies with | honey then vinegar." Though why you would want flies, I don't know but, | hey, it's all about choices. Right? | | There are other good articles after his editorial too. | | CU | Bob | | Ben Barrett ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: | > | >Well said, Bob. May I remind everyone again that we have a separate | >"activism" list. If you think a post should *maybe* go there instead, | >post it there.... and thanks for posting at all! | > | >I agree with these sentiments, although the statment, "The Linux | >community is being invaded by zealots, extremists and kooks...." causes | >me some distress! I imagine that the majority of the citizens of the | >world are not"normal" by any practical measure -- although zealots, | >extremists, and kooks are a bit beyond the unpractical "norm"; and if we | >do desire the success of Linux, then we will have to allow our | >Linux-using community to expand beyond what, say, 1/2 of the folks might | >be comfortable with. | > | >Here's a classic example: Zapatistas in Mexico. A *new* generation of | >zaps, who are being taught linux starting in elementary school. | >Certainly there are many conformists in their population, as there are | >here, however the rebels among them (extremists and kooks even!) are now | >being empowered with high-quality, highly powerful, and FREE tools by | >their goverment. In my crystal ball, the future is hazy, but I see more | >use of Linux. That means linux in the server room, on the desktop, and | >also in the hands of extremists, and even terrorists. We'd better get | >used to it, and decide how to respond, because it doesn't belong to us. | >I also do not believe that we can (or should [try to]) turn people into | >conformists via Linux. | > | >Thoughts? | > | >Thanks for your time, freaks = ) | > | > Ben | > | > | >On Wed, 04 Feb 2004 15:42:45 +0000 | >"Bob Crandell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | > | >| Hi, | >| | >| Here is something you might want to read, at least the first part. | >| | >| LINUX PIPELINE NEWSLETTER | >| http://www.linuxpipeline.com/ | >| February 3, 2004 | >| | >| EXTREMISM IN DEFENSE OF LINUX MUST BE CONDEMNED | >| | >| I've been doing a bit of Googling today, and I've discovered that | >| there's something missing from the statements by Linux leaders about | >| the MyDoom attack. It needs to be said: | >| | >| Vigilante action is wrong. The author or authors of the MyDoom virus | >| should be prosecuted with the full vigor of the law. They are | >| villains, they should be thrown into prison and made into examples | >| to make the entire community of computer criminals afraid. | >| | >| The Linux community is being invaded by zealots, extremists and | >| kooks who are, in fact, doing far more damage to the Linux community | >| itself than to anyone else. | >| .... | ><clipped> | >_______________________________________________ | >EuG-LUG mailing list | >[EMAIL PROTECTED] | >http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug | > | | -- | Assured Computing | When you need to be sure. | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | www.assuredcomp.com | Voice - 541-868-0331 | FAX - 541-463-1627 | Eugene, Oregon | | | _______________________________________________ | EuG-LUG mailing list | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug -- _______________________________________________ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
