> and people deride OpenBSD because they claim that there are no holes
> in a default install ... to a degree because hardly anything is enabled
> by default.

And that's a good thing, Jake ;)

I can't count the numbers of times I've helped some poor soul that's been
rooted:

"Ah they got in via portmap"

"What's portmap and why is it running on my web server?"

But really, that's not the main thing that makes OpenBSD secure, in my
opinion. It's the attention to code correctness. Theo's anal patch to ksh
this morning is but one example of that ;)

God, I'd sticking up for OpenBSD and using it as the main OS on my PC
laptop. What's the world coming to?

/jgw

PS: Anyone messed with hotplugd yet?? It's pretty cool, and I don't think
many people realize how cool yet. You can define actions (shell scripts)
that run when a particular device is plugged in. Nice for automatically
downloading and dating and processing photos with literally no work:

cp /mnt/camera/DSC*.JPG /home/www/pictures/$DATE && makethumbs.sh

:)

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