WELL SAID, Larry :) I was feeling a bit to the right there for a while, re-reading what I wrote ;) in regards to net neutrality, that is... and kind of wanting a solution on the backbone. Net chiropractor, anyone?
Does this compare well to the postal service (or ups/dhl/etc.)? My package contents are scanned to make sure I'm not trying to deliver something that is essentially threatening, either to recipient or to the delivery infrastructure itself. And on the backbone, I don't know how one would expect to be untraceable... the sense of privacy we can claim now has limits, like neighbors with parabolic-dish microphones, telescopes, passive wifi gear, and so forth. And to Woody (aka Silver, read your post whilst composing this) -- well-said also, educating leaders will be crucial to the survival not only of humanity through the information age, but to the survival and well-being of our own species Geekus. Idea: Maybe EUGLUG could put on a presentation for the City Club of Eugene? Their meetings get aired on KLCC radio, which is also webcast :) http://www.cityclubofeugene.org/mission.html seems to fit with their goals... cheerio, ben PS - bonus material for those interested: 23C3 conference in Berlin, talk is "Automated Botnet Detection and Mitigation", and video is copyleft/creative-commons AFAICT http://events.ccc.de/congress/2006/Fahrplan/events/1342.en.html http://video.google.de/videoplay?docid=6428314781144482184 or grab torrent at: http://www.mininova.org/tor/558684 also see: http://honeyblog.org/archives/81-Botspy-Efficient-Observation-of-Botnets.html (there is one entry on honeyblog which shows an bot's popup message, stating that the FBI is scanning this computer and it shouldn't be touched for the next 5 minutes!) On 2/12/07, larry price <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 2/12/07, Russ Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I like the fact that most ISPs have taken the attitude that they are > just a piece of wire in the circuit. > That is the essence of net neutrality. On a practical level though most ISPs do engage in some filtering/packet shaping/rate limits and all of them have terms in their AUP regarding their right to terminate service to endpoints that degrade the functionality of the network. > I didn't ask them to protect me from myself, and I appreciate the fact > that they aren't acting like big brother. > I've had to deal with several DDOS attacks over the years, in a couple of cases the value of the service time lost to the attack was in the thousands of dollars. Botnet infections are a crime that sets the stage for further crimes; someone has to be the sheriff. On the other hand I don't necessarily want to live in a world where every message is traceable to its source and every action can be scrutinised by anyone. I don't expect that particular tension to be resolved in my lifetime. I want ISPs to cooperate with law enforcement in tracking down crimes on the network, I also want law enforcement to operate under STRONG judicial oversight aimed at protecting the rights and privacy of the public.
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