I would have to agree with many of Ben's points. I do caution anyone thinking of buying one of the machines from Psystar. I say this because there motherboards have a normal PC Bios and do not have the Extensible Firmware Interface (EFI) on board. The way they (Psystar) is getting around this is by installing a EFI emulator on the system. This then brings me to this, if apple ever figured they want to enforce there OS-X EULA and stop updates to non-Apple hardware. Wikipedia has a nice page on EFI for anyone wanting to know more about EFI.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extensible_Firmware_Interface -Miller On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 12:09 PM, Ben Barrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well those certainly look cheaper than Mac Pro's... but what is it > about them that's better than running OS X on any other PC hardware? > Their own company's support? > > I would be curious to see any new [intel-based esp] PC hardware which > was *not* capable of running the Leopard kernel. In any case, a > usable system will be at the mercy of all the I/O support ;) > You're not going to get support from Apple if you run their software > on non-Apple hardware anyway, AFAICT. > > I saw a 10.4 install cleanly on a Dell subnotebook a while back; the > only hitch was that neither the sound nor wifi worked out of the box. > I was impressed, due to a variety of difficult linux installs I had > earlier this decade. > I presume that things are even better now, all around. Yeah, I'm > typing this on an iMac, so grill me for it if ya like, but I think I'd > much rather run VMware than dual-boot. IMHO, dual-booting has very > narrow application (recovery/utility partitions, true dual&separate > use systems, etc) and virtualization plus cheaper memory has made > things a lot easier for us all. I think my iMac is a pretty stellar > piece of hardware, and its design awards agree, although I'd kill for > 16GB of RAM and a quad-core... I digress, but for people like us (I > have more than a few other PC's around) I think cheap commodity > hardware is the best value in a workstation. > Related, those 8800 cards look great, I read some CAD support forums > about them and I think they only failed on some > intersection/solid-overlap tests. I'm curious about > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entropia_Universe vs > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Life in the competition for the > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_world of choice... does anyone > have any feedback about the Havok engine vs CryEngine2 ??? > > ~ben > > > > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 11:43 AM, john fleming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > http://www.psystar.com/index.php?&page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage_images.tpl&product_id=19&category_id=3&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=72 > > Anyone looking at these? Makes a triple boot system look reasonable, > > finally. They are legit aren't they? They just have the two desktop models > > for now, perhaps laptops in the future? > > JF > > > > > _______________________________________________ > EUGLUG mailing list > euglug@euglug.org > http://www.euglug.org/mailman/listinfo/euglug > _______________________________________________ EUGLUG mailing list euglug@euglug.org http://www.euglug.org/mailman/listinfo/euglug
