On 5 Feb 2003, Mike CHENEY wrote:

> On Tue, 2003-02-04 at 17:36, Henk Uijterwaal (RIPE-NCC) wrote:
> Hi Henk,
>
> > Can you please explain how Euronog will differ from other organizations
> > that already have working groups with similar names and appear to be
> > doing at least some of the work listed below?
>
> I launched the EuroNOG idea because before there was no european group:
>
> AfNOG http://www.afnog.org/
> FRnOG http://www.frnog.org/
> Nanog http://www.nanog.org/
> NordNog http://www.nordnog.org/
> NZNOG http://www.nznog.org/
> SwiNOG http://www.swinog.ch/

> Many people was interested to have a european NOG after Ebone story.
> It's interesting to have a neutral community with about the same goals
> as Nanog for european people.

There is the EOF, European Operators Forum,
http://www.ripe.net/ripe/wg/eof/index.html, with a charter very similar to
all the NOG's.  I immediately admit that in the last years, presentations
at the EOF moved towards towards tutorials rather than NANOG style
presentations, but there is no reason why that can be changed.

Also, if you then start sub-groups on various topics (Routing, v6, DDoS,
...), it appears that you are just duplicating the RIPE meetings where
similar groups meet to discuss the same topics.  That is not a good idea,
IMHO.


Henk (speaking for myself, not as a RIPE NCC employee)

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