As some Washington pol said, "A billion here and a billion there and pretty
soon we're talking about real money!"
Gail Leatherwood
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From: "Gary McMurtry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 9:58 PM
Subject: Re: Possible solution to zero-G bone loss problem (and
osteoporosis!)


>
> Bruce, et al.,
>
> If this vibrating treatment holds up, then it will be the greatest
> leap forward in manned space flight since the invention of the warp
> drive...;->
>
> BTW, the Europa Focus Group meeting in Flagstaff in early Sept. was
> interesting.  Yours truly attended, and made his presence known.
> Basically, there was a push made by myself and others to add a
> lander/rover/corer to the Europa Orbiter Program presently scheduled
> for a 2008 launch.  The logic goes like this.  The main goal of the
> orbiter is to ascertain "for certain"  (1) the presence or absence of
> an ocean (or lakes), (2) crust thicknesses, (3) mantle/seafloor
> depths.  Secondary goals are to map the surface ala Galileo but with
> complete coverage and at even higher resolution.  The latter should
> better define lander targets.  Some of us (me, especially) objected
> to a purely orbiter mission given (a) the almost certain existence of
> an ocean, (b) the nearly-(too mild?) certain evidence for past liquid
> water, and (c) given either a or b, the interesting proposition that
> life may have existed there in the past if not also present, and that
> evidence for it may therefore be trapped in relatively young ice/salt
> near the surface (just below the few decimeters that are blasted by
> Jupiter's ionospheric radiation).  Other arguments against the
> orbiter-only mission are: (1) we already have quite a few fairly
> high-res. targets for a lander based upon Galileo (we fussed over
> several at the meeting), (2) adding more targets and more high-res.
> remote sensing will not get us any closer to the more compelling
> questions about the ocean, its composition and prospects for life
> there than we basically are at now, and (3) an orbiter mission
> failure (Heaven forbid) would kick the lander mission so far into the
> future that anyone capable of reading this can forget being around to
> enjoy the outcomes.
>
> If it goes, the rumor is the Europa Orbiter will cost about 1 Billion
> dollars (I now place my little finger in the corner of my mouth ala
> Dr. Evil).  An orbiter-lander mission would cost about 50% more, per
> Torrence Johnson.  Seems to me 1.5 billion will get us a lot closer
> to the answers we seek.  These are big numbers, but I think most of
> you will agree that the science and technology stakes are high, also.
>
> I could comment on lander options as well, but thought I'd get this
> off my chest first.
>
> Gary
>
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