RE: Test beds of ice

[James McEnanly]

It would also be a good idea to lay these blocks on a sloope, to simulate Europan gravity, rather than using full Terrestrial gravity.

 Robert Crawley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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up a printer stand, they had us custom make some for them for a few hundred
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Sheff
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 10:12 AM
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Subject: RE: Test beds of ice


What a brilliant idea! That's the kind of ingenious and non-linear thinking
we could bring to this project. NASA would never have thought of it - it's
not expensive enough...
- John in Cambridge

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Mickey Civ 50 ES/CC
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 10:23 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Test beds of ice


How much ice depth are we looking at for a test? I see from some
discussions we are talking about a model around 8" in diameter. There must
still be block ice producers in some large city that make large chunks of
ice (for ice sculptures, if nothing else). Perhaps one of them could be
approached to construct a large column of ice in a freezer for test
purposes. They would get some notoriety, a tax break, and make a
contribution to science. If our model were not too long, as it melts through
a first block of ice a second block could be put in place beneath it as it
melted its way through each block. This would give the effect of a very
large ice depth depending upon how long everyone was willing to participate.
Benefits of this idea: - access to power, convenient to transportation, a
laboratory setting, and a lot less cost involved than trekking to the wilds
of Washington or Alask! a.

Another approach - at some location where the temperature is not likely to
rise above freezing for an extended period of time, fill a large diameter
culvert with snow, ice, water, gravel etc. whatever you think a Europan Ice
model might be. Mount the culvert vertically and let the IcePick probe work.
This method could still be in a less remote area and therefore less
expensive for a test project. Culverts of 20 feet length are not uncommon.
It wouldn't be damaged so maybe it could be borrowed from someone.

Mickey Schmidt


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Sincerely

 

James McEnanly

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