IMO, h2  storage is not yet sufficiently dense for some purposes.  you cite the
interesting example of a boat.  It might be dense enough for that, but then
again maybe one could do better.

Making something like Methanol or Ethanol or what-have-you out of it, rather
than storing it as pure h2 only, might seem a bit far-fetched, but could
arguably be regarded as a storage solution alongside other
if-you-look-at-them-they're-also-a-bit-strained storage solutions such as
conventional-pressurized, liquified H2, carbon nanotubes, etc.

I don't know precisely how, if at all, there is a way presently to make
Hydrocarbons and alcohols from electricity and ingredients such as hydrogen and
ambient air, but I think some slight progress has been made, and more will be
going forward, whether the OIl Co's like it or not.

jl

On Tue, 27 Aug 2002 08:43:46 -0700, you wrote:

>EVs yes, but there is no way they are going to waste ballast on a fishing
>boat to make room for enough batteries to power it, not when hydrogen
>storage is so dense.  Every ton of batteries represents a ton of fish they
>can't catch.
>
>If you can make hydrogen cheap enough, who cares if some of it leaks out?
>Ditto for the efficiency, if you can get abundant electricity virtually
>free.
>
>As for exporting electricity to Europe, Iceland is separated from the rest
>of Europe by ...what?...1,000 - 1,5000 miles of ocean?  That's an awfully
>long extension cord.
>
>This isn't going to happen over night, I'm guessing they are planning on
>putting a lot of time and money into FC and other hydrogen research and they
>hope to have solutions to the major problems by the time they get the
>infrastructure in place.
>
>Just out of curiosity, how would they make methane?  Last I checked you
>can't make that out of electricity and water (the two things they have an
>over abundance of in Iceland).
>
>>This would be good except that EV's powered by
>>the hydro would be a lot more eff than H2. 
>>Then there is the little problem of storing it
>>as H2 seeps through steel! Pipelines are the only way
>>to use it now. Not good for transport, worse than an
>>extension cord!! ;-)) 
>>To use it in an ICE usually melts the engine
>>after a while. Never heard of a high time H2 engine.
>>There best bet is to export the electricity to
>>europe or make methane from it.
>>The only EV they mention is a Fuel cell unit
>>with the same problems above besides, FC are
>>unattainable..
>

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