I had the pleasure of helping several high school teams in Georgia prepare
for the 2000 and 2002 FutureCar Student Challenge.  See
http://www.fccstudentchallenge.org/

In both years' competitions, student teams used Advisor to study and
evaluate EVs and hybrids.  Matlab and Advisor were provided by the
competition organizers to competing high school teams for free.  I spent a
good deal of time using the Advisor software and devising study problems and
design exercises for the students.  Advisor can be downloaded for free from
NREL (see http://www.ctts.nrel.gov/analysis/)  However, you have to purchase
or have a copy of Matlab on your PC to run it.  There is also an AdvisorLite
program - I do not know details about it.

The program provided to students came with many default and standard input
files for various motors, engines, energy storage systems, transmissions,
control systems, and chassis.  You can "assemble" a variety of vehicles and
test them under many different simulation scenarios and do standard EPA fuel
economy and emissions testing.  I looked into creating data files for one of
the school's Ranger pick-up conversion so we could do more detailed analysis
and comparisons to real-world data.  We got busy with other things and
program documentation was not very complete for enabling high school
students to accomplish this.

Still, the program can provide useful information and allow you to evaluate
concepts quickly without ever building anything (good and bad).  Students
were able to design and simulate vehicles with great performance, range, and
drivability within certain constraints using "off-the-shelf components".
Unfortunately, Advisor does not include any economic analysis or cost data
so while their designs were impressive, they may not be economically viable.

-Alan

Alan C. Shedd, P.E.
Advisor to Georgia's Electric Vehicle Education Program
(cell) 770-654-0027
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Prasad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 10:16 PM
Subject: Re: anybody using ADVISOR


> Hi Martin and all,
>
> Yes the Matlab program is very expensive. But ADVISOR has so much data
that
> it is a good way to learn EVs, to start with. Actually, I open all the
'.m'
> files as text files and see what information I can gather. Some of the
> calculations (very simple ones) can be done by us, and if you are an
expert
> in matrices, you don't need a computer!!
>
> Prasad
> http://www.geocities.com/aquariangenius
> http://members.fortunecity.com/aquariangenius
>
> _____________________________________________________________________
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Martin Jackson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "EV Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 2:38 AM
> Subject: anybody using ADVISOR
>
>
> >   Hi Prasad;
> >
> > "Is there anyone on the list using ADVISOR (from NREL) to evaluate your
> > EVs."
> >
> >   The MATLAB program is used to run the full ADVISOR modeling system.
> >   This is an expensive program out of my reach. The ADVISOR package
> >   contains a lot of data for components of a vehicle, so just that might
> >   make it worth downloading. Only some of the tables are human readable.
> >   ______________________________________________________________________
> >
>

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