A lot of this has to do with speed . I'm towing a trailer and weigh 5800 but
at 35 mph I feel safe . no problem stopping ( I use the brakes little as I
time everything) After years of this slow driving I feel most gas burners
are nuts driving car over 60 mphs (most over 80) I don't feel safe in any
car over 80 with other drivers around but that just me. I'm lucky to be in
florida with all these old fart slow drivers.
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Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 3:02 PM
Subject: Re: GVWR


> Tom Shay wrote:
>
>
> > GVWR was certainly an issue with my Ranger EV
>
> I've found it an issue too, especially in regards to braking.
> Vehicles leaving the factory have to meet certain braking
> distance standards, I doubt many conversions could meet them
> in their GVWR-plus status.  At least with trucks there's a
> chance you can beef up the brakes to the next-heavier version's
> model, with cars there may not be much you can do.  That's
> one of the reasons I would never stuff 1200lbs of floodeds
> into a Rabbit or Escort, the chassis just was never meant to
> hold all that and still go down the road safely.  For those
> EV owners that do and get away with it, it's due to safe
> driving habits and luck.  If there was a panic stop, forget it.
>
> I put kevlar pads on my S-10 and that made the braking acceptable,
> but not anything like it was as an ICE with stock brakes.  It takes
> a solid honk on the pedal to get the tires anywhere near lockup.
> My truck is at GVWR with no one in it.
>
>
> > Even with the springs, tires, wheels and rear axle
> > changes,  I don't think my Ranger had any GVWR
> > overhead.  It had enough but no extra.
>
> It's pretty safe to say that most "mini-trucks" are just cars
> with a cargo space.  I've got the same axle and suspension I'm
> sure GM stuck in some of it's passenger cars.  Augmenting
> the springs, adding sway bars, beefing up the brakes, etc
> are pretty much mandatory if you expect the vehicle to handle
> and brake safely with ~1000lbs of permanent extra payload.
> If you proposed hauling around 1000lbs of cement in a stock
> ICE Escort you'd be considered crazy, but for some reason if
> you change the cement to batteries it somehow becomes OK.
> You could probably exceed GVWR by a significant percentage and
> still not "break" anything, but I wouldn't want to be in front
> of you.  There are also issues of accelerated wear, I only
> get half as many miles on a set of tires and brakes as I used to.
> I'm sure the bearings are taking a pounding too, and the springs
> will fatigue and sag quicker.  It all takes it's toll...
>
> Mark Brueggemann
> Albuquerque, NM
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> S-10 EV
>
>
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