> Lawrence Rhodes wrote:
>
>> The charger chip that senses current and voltage is a nice 
>> feature. Can these chips be added to a charger like the B&W 
>> or maybe a variac bad boy.

Lee Hart wrote:

> Most of these chips are designed for small low-voltage low-
> current battery packs, as used in laptop computers etc. It's 
> not going to be easy making them work correctly with a large 
> EV pack.  The shunt to measure current is often inside the 
> chip. This is simply too small for a big pack. On some, you 
> can use an external shunt, but they still assume relatively 
> low currents, and so designed for a shunt with a large voltage 
> drop, like 0.25v at full current. If you tried this charging 
> at (say) 25 amps, the shunt would dissipate P = 0.25v x 25a 
> 6.25 watts. 

This chip uses an exernal shunt.  Yes, the voltage drop required 
is .25V, but that works out nicely to an available 0.01R shunt 
for 25A - so the 6.25W dissipation is not a problem.

> The chips are usually powered from the pack 
> voltage, which is usually 12v or less. You have to provide 
> some kind of low voltage supply for the chip. This can be 
> complicated because some chips sense battery voltage via their 
> supply voltage.

Not this one, the pack voltage sensing in independant from VCC.

> Most have on-chip temperature sensors. This works fine for 
> small batteries, where the chip is mounted right inside the 
> battery pack. It does not work for EVs, where the chip is far 
> away from the batteries and so not at the same temperature.

The bq2031 uses an external NTC thermistor, on the end of a wire 
if you like.

> Finally, the algorithms designed into these chips are often 
> very specific, designed for one particular type of battery. In 
> some cases, I swear neither the chip manufacturer nor their 
> customers have any clue as to what good charging algorithms 
> are. For example, they are designed charge fast, without 
> regard to battery life. Or, they don't worry about charger 
> efficiency, and use linear regulation. Or they don't provide 
> delays for state-switching, so they abruptly switch modes due 
> to momentary glitches in AC line voltage or momentary loads on 
> the EV's battery (like opening a door so the dome light comes 
> on, so the DC/DC converter kicks in, loading the propulsion 
> pack. When you close the door, the sudden drop in propulsion 
> pack current falsely triggers a mode change from finish to 
> float).

This one doesn't seem too bad (it is designed for lead acid, 
with the correct voltage/temperature compensation), in fact the 
Constant Current / Constant Voltage / Float profile looks 
similar to the Zivan - so, not ideal maybe but useable..

Regards,
Evan.


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