What about conversions ? Are there people doing conversions in Europe? what's the price of gas there ( in dollars ) ? When I heard that the think was $27k I started to understand why they aren't selling . What I want to know is why I haven't sold my EV Mazda truck (best conversion I have ever done) for $10 k if there are all these people out there wanting thinks and EV-1's.
Reasons to buy a conversion 1 cheaper that factory (1/2 to 1/3 the price) 2 available 3 easy to fix ( not some computer nightmare ) 4 service available (the guy who made it can fix it ) 5 they go faster/further ( because a conversion is not tied down to some safely standard, we can put more batteries in there and a big ass controller) 6 could use a Porsche 9/11 body and have a real nice car still less that $20k (I'll sell my 924 for $10k now) 7 Be part of a special group of people on the cutting edge of something so new and exciting (EV madness)you'll want to tell everyone you meet. 8 You will make some back yard EV car converter very happy who will hold your hand through your EV experience (and may give you a full refunds if you aren't happy). 9 You just recycled one of the biggest pieces of trash thrown out today and stopped more from being made. Reasons not to buy a commercial EV from a car maker 1 coast 2 to 3 times what a conversion cost 2 not available . can't find them or have to wait/beg ect 3 Not easy to fix. It will be so complicated that you/they may not be able to fix them(you have heard the stories) 4 You will have to take it to were they say to take it for repair. Leave it as long as they tell you to . Deal with people who thinks your nuts for buying one (because they won't own one) 5 There performance is not what a conversion will give you /for the money even at 2 time the price 6 Pick any model/year gas car then convert it Compared to some brick (ev-1 was nice looking I will give them that)of a car. 7 You are nothing special with your factory EV and in the eyes of the company who sold it to you ,they hope they never see you again. Do you think if you call them and tell them how much you liked there car they would care( I love those phone calls) 8 Your interest in an EV ,viewed from the bottom(sales man who wants to sell you a gas car instead) to the top (board members ) is viewed as a problem. "If you would just buy a regular car" .No refund here if your not happy. 9 You didn't recycle one of the biggest pieces of trash made today . From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 5:11 AM Subject: Re: EVs and Europe > Janez Svetlin wrote: > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> among other wrote: > > >> True, for a variety of reasons. The Think may have had a > >> better chance in europe, though I don't know why they would > >> fare better than other EV's that have been offered there. > >> The issue though is why Ford dropped them for the U.S. > > > > Well, bullshit. I'm from europe (Slovenia to be exact) and > > neither Think neither any other EV was offered to me. Neither > > can I get one factory made even if I try. > > Same here. (UK, in Europe, not that far from France) > > We "almost" got the Think. I enquired about it. You could > lease one, for a lot of money, if you lived in London. You > could lease a Peugeot 205 electrique, but you have to be a > council or electricity company. That's not the same as > available, as far as I'm concerned. > Someone imports Sparrows, but I don't know if they've sold any. > Before these examples? A '70s Enfield? Again, I don't think > they were available for sale to the public. > > We have a very anti-EV media over here, the public have > generally been brainwashed out of considering EVs as practical > for them. > > >
