Bruce,  Thanks.   That is the plan to watch it for some time before I trust it 
for good.  Al 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce EVangel Parmenter" <[email protected]> 
To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <[email protected]> 
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 5:19:13 PM 
Subject: Re: [EVDL] two chargers in parallel 

> I do not know how to [adjust them] myself 

That is why I mentioned it. Zivans have to be adjusted correctly. I have 
the experience of how to do such adjustments, but I do not have the 
equipment, nor the charger specific knowledge of the proper settings and 
adjustment procedures to do it myself. It seems like we all have to rely 
on the factory to adjust them correctly. 

[EV-history - Way-back when I got my Zivans (circa ~1990's), there was 
some serious dissing of them as a viable charger because some were 
received with their settings wrong and their was no way to adjust them. 
I knew of the Zivan distributor (at the time, Greg), and arranged an 
appointment to drive up and drop by his shop in Sacramento (160+ miles 
North). 

I knew there was some settings that 'had to be right' or I would 
cook/(under or over-charge) my PbSO4 pack when going on my long journeys 
using multiple Zivan chargers (at the time, no one else was going on the 
really long trips like it nor using multiple chargers in parallel 
either). At the time, there really was no other off-the-shelf smart EV 
charger options, so if I did not have any problems, then this charger 
was still a viable option for the EV community to use (I was throwing 
money and time at the issue for the EV-cause). 

His shop was interesting. He had a hand-made rig that he used to adjust 
the settings, and then he went through it again, for a total of three 
different times, slightly adjusting each time. As a businessman he knew 
that if we got this right, it would overcome the bad-rep that was being 
passed around within the EV community (it would help his sales), so I am 
sure you can imagine I got a little more attention than say someone that 
had just shipped theirs in a box (face to face had more of an effect). 
/EV-history off] 

As it turned out, the chargers worked fine. The only issue was, as the 
PbOS4 pack aged voltages will (and did change), but that was overcome 
when the new pack was swapped in (only a few months of watching the 
charging at the last part of the pack's life). 

I do not have first hand li-ion pack experience. What I know about 
li-ion has been taught to me by evdl member's and their experiences. 
(Corrections requested) from what I have gathered, li-ion pack aging 
will not be as a serious problem for you as it would be if you were 
using the PbSO4 pack chemistry. 

According to your EValbum page 
http://www.evalbum.com/2430 
You are in Edmonds, WA which has similar temperatures to the San 
Francisco area (Seattle has a large body of water to keep temperatures 
pleasant). But if you plan to go exploring in areas that have serious 
temperature changes, I suggest you have some thermal management for your 
pack (insulate and heat it when it is cold, and keep it cool when it is 
hot). 

A lot has changed since those old-days. I am reading on the evdl that 
drivers that receive their chargers back from being adjusted, have had 
no problems. But if I were in your shoes/situation, since the adjustment 
work was not my own, I would recommend that you initially monitor your 
chargers, so that you know they really do what you asked Zivan to adjust 
for (that they shut down / off at the correct voltages). You always have 
to factor in human error, and double check to know all is right/well. 
  

{brucedp.150m.com} 



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On Fri, Mar 22, 2013, at 01:28 PM, [email protected] wrote: 
> Bruce,  I sent charger # 2 to Zivan to do the reprogramming.  They did 
> charger # 1 as well.  I do not know how to do this myself.  I would be 
> interested in knowing how.  Al 
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