http://insideevs.com/tesla-model-s-charging-inlet-in-europe/ "Menneke" in EU-Tesla, Puh.. :-) http://www.plugincars.com/european-commission-wants-act-help-evs-126265.html http://green.autoblog.com/2013/02/05/european-commission-decides-on-mennekes-type-2-plug-standard/
/John ---------------------------------------- > From: hoegb...@hotmail.com > To: ev@lists.evdl.org > Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2013 14:39:25 +0200 > Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: SMUD installing Efacec's Dual-Standard > CHAdeMO+Combo L3 EVSE > > - Thanx a lot for this Bruce, it did help. :-) > > > Yes, normal over-night charging at home = not a problem at all, even here in > Sweden @6 - 10Amps (230Vac) we just use normal wall-plug or > engineheater-plugs at home, at work etc. No "stations". > > > it is probably the long trips that Im most interested in now with high c-rate > cells, so..how to communicate with the level3 DC station if I need fast Juice? > > Is it possible to set both the current and voltage levels when you start tho > up a charge with them? > We have for example 96Cell LiFePO4 in some cars, (also someting like 30-40 > cells in some vehicles, but that seems to be unsupported in the future, as it > seems to be only 200-600VDC & up to 400Amp in "level 3" DC ) > > > (BTW, I think Volvo now have 20+ kW onboard AC chargers) > > > /John > > > ---------------------------------------- >> Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2013 04:42:05 -0700 >> From: bruce...@operamail.com >> To: ev@lists.evdl.org >> Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: SMUD installing Efacec's Dual-Standard >> CHAdeMO+Combo L3 EVSE >> >> >> -First let's discuss 'levels' in the U.S. sae.org would like you to think it >> is the following: >> http://www.sae.org/smartgrid/chargingspeeds.pdf >> and wiki has their own views >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAE_J1772 >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charging_station >> but the realities of implementation translates to: >> >> Production plugins (EV and pih/phev) are designed to only draw 12A when >> charging on level-1 (L1, 120VAC * 12A = ) 1.44 kW >> Some public L1 EVSE have circuitry that limits/gets-goofy if more than 12A >> is being drawn (reports of conversion drivers having difficulty with columb >> ct2100 (L2 & L1) EVSE when plugged into its level-1 5-20 outlet, power >> shutting off, etc. Meaning a 20A outlet that only supplies 12A without >> issues). >> >> Home EVSE is powered from 240VAC, and is usually 3 to 6kW level-2. >> Public L2 EVSE's power source can range from 208 to 240VAC (depending on the >> electrical source, 3 phase/single phase, old-wiring, etc.). Public EVSE can >> supply 6kW (208VAC 32A off a 40A breaker. >> In the beginning, most automakers went cheap, and only offered a >> half-powered 3kW on-board charger in Production Plugins. Now some automakers >> offer an option to purchase a 6kW on-board charger capability. >> Recently ecotality/blink detuned/turned-down its public L2 EVSE power >> output: >> http://www.plugincars.com/blink-charging-stations-get-current-turned-down-128028.html >> >> Level-3 kW levels are a moving target. Because different manufacturers offer >> different kW capabilities. But what has been most implemented as public L3 >> is Blink's CHAdeMO >> https://www.blinknetwork.com/brochures/dc-fast-charger/index.html >> Blink DC Fast Charger SpecificationsMaximum Output Power 60 kW Max (Setting >> Adjustable 30kW - 60 kW) >> Maximum Output Current 200 Amps >> Minimum Output Current 5 Amps >> Output Voltage 200 VDC - 450 VDC >> Input Voltage 208/380/400/480/575 VAC 3-Phase >> Frequency 50/60 Hz >> Input Current 200 Amps at 208 VAC >> 89 Amps at 480 VAC >> 74 Amps at 575 VAC >> ... >> In the NW coast, a network of aerovironment 50kW L3 was installed >> https://insideevs.com/current-cost-of-50-kw-chademo-dc-quick-charger-around-16500/ >> from the Canadian board down to the California boarder through Washington >> state and Oregon as the 'Electric highway' consisting of both L3 and L2 EVSE >> http://www.westcoastgreenhighway.com/electrichighways.htm >> http://www.westcoastgreenhighway.com/WAelectrichighways.htm >> http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2012/03/19/electric-highway-opens-in-oregon/ >> >> What type of L3 a host may want to purchase can vary too. Lower powered L3 >> EVSE are cheaper to purchase, wire-for, and draw less electricity (more >> efficient? or perhaps some drivers would leave early in frustration?) >> >> >> -While the above can seem confusing/a-bit-much to the non-techie-types, I >> will generalize and say: >> the majority of plugins on U.S. roads draw 3kW level-2 at home and off >> public 6kW L2 EVSE. >> And to a lesser degree use L3 at a 50kW level. >> >> >> {brucedp.150m.com} >> >> >> >> >> - >> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013, at 12:40 AM, Hoegberg . wrote: >>> Hi, >>> What is "average" ? 15 or ..60kWh ? >>> What is "level":s of kW in usa ? >>> John >> - >> >> >> >> -- >> View this message in context: >> http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-SMUD-installing-Efacec-s-Dual-Standard-CHAdeMO-Combo-L3-EVSE-tp4664949p4664981.html >> Sent from the Electric Vehicle Discussion List mailing list archive at >> Nabble.com. >> _______________________________________________ >> UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub >> http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org >> For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA >> (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) >> > _______________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA > (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
