My Brass bolts, bronze lock washers with copper straps on my TS cells
have not come loose. I have 4 years on this pack now. I put NO-AL-OX
in the threads after cleaning the surface of the terminals and,
obviously, before putting the bolts in. If I ever have to redo my pack
I will clean off the gunky NO-AL-OX and use NO-OX-ID "A SPECIAL" since
it doesn't appear to get gunky.

Another method which has worked well for many is to use Nord-Lock
(www.nord-lock.com) washers instead of lock washers.

On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 1:09 PM, Roland <e...@msn.com> wrote:
> In all electrical connections we use in devices such as wire terminals, buss 
> bars, circuit breakers, circuit breaker buss connections, are cadmium plated 
> copper or aluminum metals.  We do not use any contact aids on cadmium plated 
> devices.
>
> There is a shunt tester that can be purchase from electrical supply houses to 
> test the conductance of a connection.  In some installations, we are required 
> to record the data of the connections and verify by a QC inspector.
>
> Roland
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Lee Hart<mailto:leeah...@earthlink.net>
>   To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List<mailto:ev@lists.evdl.org>
>   Sent: Monday, January 06, 2014 11:35 AM
>   Subject: Re: [EVDL] Keeping LiFePO4 battery terminals tight every 10k miles
>
>
>   Mark Hanson wrote:
>   > ... I found a few other battery terminal bolts not tight after 20k
>   > miles (even with sealing paint on terminal bolts CALB 130).
>   > So it's best to tighten terminal bolts on lithiums every 10k miles it
>   > seems. I used to tighten terminal bolts on old lead GC batteries
>   > every 500 miles but didn't think it was necessary with lithiums but
>   > apparently they need it as well just less often.
>
>   Soft metals like lead, aluminum, and copper can "cold flow" due to
>   pressure. Temperature cycling and vibration also play a part.
>
>   Unfortunately, these factors are common in electrical connections. These
>   soft metals are used for their high electrical conductivity. High
>   currents make the temperature extremes worse due to self-heating.
>
>   Dis-similar metals are another factor. These create corrosion couples,
>   that corrode if the joint isn't absolutely air tight. They expand at
>   different rates with temperature, leading to large pressure changes in
>   the joint. Inexperienced or cheapskate designers seem to have a total
>   disregard for the metals used in their electrical contacts. They ignore
>   100 years of experience and use whatever metals are handy.
>
>   My guess is that if (for example) you bolt a copper strip to an aluminum
>   stud with a stainless steel screw, it's hopeless to expect a reliable
>   connection.
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