Hi Kevin,

The second part of your reply is interesting (the first bit is too, but does 
not solve the question of how to get a charge at your distant relly (relative) 
when they have no EVSE nor inclination to get one).

The device in the picture on the renault.co.uk web page appears to be 
near-identical to the one that comes *as standard* with the Mitsubishi i-Miev 
(and Ion and C-Zero). This should not be a surprise (the identical-ness, not 
that it's standard equipment) as both the Mennekes socket used by the Zoe and 
the J1772 socket used on the i-Miev both conform to the same IEC 62196 standard 
- but use different plugs. These cables with 'bricks' can be bought on ebay for 
around £300.  So not a big issue to overcome if the battery lease is acceptable.

There is even someone in the Czech Republic selling a cable *without a brick* 
that will do the same.  In fact it has all its electronics inside the J1772 
plug (no mennekes version yet, I gather) which allows the user to program the 
amount of current flow - from 6 to 32A (depending on which cable you get - 
16/32A).  This would suit me as I have my standard cable plugged into a 
weather-proof socket which incorporates a timer on a sort of semi-permenant 
basis.  This means I don't have to get the cable/brick out of the boot every 
time I want to plug in nor do I have to stow it all away again before I set 
off.  

There are only 2 issues with the ebay cable; 

1/ You might have to set the current draw each time you use it... I think the 
i-Miev draws 10A max on a 230/240V supply so this shouldn't be an issue as the 
cable resets to its highest level each time it is disconnected from the mains 
and 

2/ the 16A version costs US$600 (down from $680)!  
http://www.ebay.com/itm/161201929348?item=161201929348&viewitem=&sspagename=ADME:X:RTQ:MOTORS:1123&vxp=mtr

MW

On 8 Feb 2014, at 14:59, Kevin Sharpe wrote:

> On 08/02/2014 13:43, "Martin WINLOW" <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Hmmm... the way I read the Renault site info on this, the minimum power
>> the on-board 'Chameleon' charger requires is 7kW.  I'll have another
>> look.  MW
> 
> Renault discuss a 16A 3kW Œwall box¹ on their UK website;
> 
> http://www.renault.co.uk/cars/electric-vehicles/zoe/zoe/zecharging/charging
> network/
> 
> 
> You can also find various references to the charging issue and solution on
> the web;
> 
> http://www.motornature.com/2013/09/the-renault-zoe-will-plug-into-a-convent
> ional-wall-socket-with-a-new-smaller-charger/
> 
> 
> Kevin Sharpe | Founder & Patron | Zero Carbon World, a UK Registered
> Charity #1141347
> 
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