As I have said before, give it another 100 years or so and we'll be digging up all those landfill sites to recover the plastic! MW
On 22 Aug 2014, at 01:09, Ben Goren via EV wrote: > On Aug 21, 2014, at 4:29 PM, Peakfoto Digital Photo Still n Video via EV > <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: > >> http://www.hybridcars.com/the-oil-sands-surprising-new-nemesis-plug-in-vehicles/ >> >> Electric cars are Far more cost n energy effective. > > At the $200/bbl range the article so casually mentions, even unimaginably > expensive futuristic technologies become economical -- such as using the > Fischer-Tropsch process (or something similar) to turn atmospheric CO2 plus > photovoltaic electricity into hydrocarbon fuels. > > Of course, as is the whole point of the article, powering vehicles directly > off of electricity is much, much cheaper than even refining today's tar sands > into gasoline...but it's comforting, at least a bit, to know both that > there're economic limits to how much fossil fuels we're likely to extract > (because alternatives, expensive as they are, will be less expensive) and > that we won't (exactly) run out of hydrocarbon fuels for things like combine > harvesters and intercontinental aircraft -- or of hydrocarbon feedstocks for > plastics. > > At the same time...imagine what that doubling of fossil fuel prices and > everything that relies on fossil fuels (like food) would be like. It's not > going to be a pretty sight. Those with local (e.g., rooftop solar) renewable > electricity production and electric vehicles will escape the most obvious of > the financial hits, but even food is going to get expensive, and the global > economy is going to suffer greatly... > > ...but, if we can make it past that without collapsing into chaos, a > solar-powered future should be mighty bright indeed. > > Cheers, > _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)