This brought to mind a waterbed thermostat, which does have a sensor in
the, or under the mattress.



If we cannot afford to take care of Veterans, then we should stop making
them.
David C. Wilker Jr.
USAF (RET)

On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 3:10 PM, Robert Bruninga via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org>
wrote:

> Note about Electric Blanket Thermostats.  The Electric Blankets I have
> taken apart have no sensor in the blanket itself.  Only the controller.
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> So there really is no closed loop thermal control since the room
> temperature and the people in bed are not linked.  They are linked from
> the cold room to the blanket, but not the reverse.  IE, as the room gets
> colder, the duty cycle to the blanket increases, but there is no feedback
> from the warmth under the blanket back to the control.
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> So think of the controller more of as a 0-10 duty cycle adjuster and not
> much else.
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> Bob, WB4aPR
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> From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of brucedp5 via EV
> Sent: Friday, February 20, 2015 5:46 PM
> To: ev@lists.evdl.org
> Subject: [EVDL] Heating a pack: Cold Charging Lithium Experiences
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> A quick and cheap way to warm a pack is with an inexpensive
> electric-blanket.
> These are produced in such high volumes the cost is fairly low, are easy
> to obtain, and. these come with a thermocouple heat-control, so you will
> have a little more control over maintaining a steady pre-heating of your
> pack than a heating source with no thermal control.
>
> Years ago (the conversion days), the night before a rally, drivers would
> pre-warm their PbSO4 packs to 100F by putting an electric-blanket over the
> top of their wet-cell pack.
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> Since heat rises, if it were possible to place the folded blanket under
> the pack, that might better utilize the heat provided.
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> Danpatgal
> Feb 20, 2015; 12:25pm
> Re: Cold Charging Lithium Experiences
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> Reviving this thread as we're having another very cold stretch here in the
> Eastern US.
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> My batteries (SE130 CALBs) are still going, but boy do they sag when it's
> cold like this.  It's annoying.
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> I've been charging when my BMS sensors (atop each cell) are over 0C, which
> they have generally remained over the past few weeks despite the cold
> (thankfully my garage generally stays above 0C).
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> But, my follow-up question on all this is if the BMS measurement is good
> enough.  For example, I guess there is resistive heat that gets generated
> upon charge/discharge/shunting that probably make the sensors read higher
> than the cells themselves.  How much, I don't know.
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> Does anybody have any thoughts, experience on this?  We've gotten down to
> -20C with a HIGH today of only -10C ... yet I'm charging.  I didn't really
> want to do it, but I was dragging so much on the road with low SOC%, I had
> to, or risk having to really limp home.
> Dan Gallagher
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