Think what would happen if the messengers and delivery people in NYC had Ebikes -
I caught this youtube video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OwyQNRjo6c Rush Dougherty Tucson AZ 85719 > -----Original Message----- > From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of Cor van de Water via EV > Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2015 5:46 PM > To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List > Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: NYPD busting & seizing escooters & ebicycles > > The problem is in NY state, any motorized bike is illegal to ride on public streets, since the > law does not allow them. Stupid, but that is the situation. > So, first the law needs to be changed, then education how to ride (and e-bike) safely can > follow. > > Cor van de Water > Chief Scientist > Proxim Wireless Corporation http://www.proxim.com > Email: cwa...@proxim.com Private: http://www.cvandewater.info > Skype: cor_van_de_water XoIP: +31877841130 > Tel: +1 408 383 7626 Tel: +91 (040)23117400 x203 > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: EV on behalf of Larry Gales via EV > Sent: Sat 7/11/2015 5:43 PM > To: Rush Dougherty; Electric Vehicle Discussion List > Cc: EVDL Administrator > Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: NYPD busting & seizing escooters & ebicycles > > But are you talking about eBike RIDERS or eBike COURIERS? Yes, the eBike delivery > people ride like maniacs because they have a strong economic incentive to drive as fast > as possible, but all eBike riders (who can contribute to lower traffic congestion, parking, > and pollution), should not suffer because of these few. > > Granted, all bike riders should learn to obey the laws, but this should be much easier to do > in an eBike, because you have no strong incentive to maintain your momentum: it is just as > easy to go uphill in an eBike, as on the level. > > On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 2:50 PM, Rush Dougherty via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> > wrote: > > > While the law may be dumb and the facts cited wrong. The main negative > > thing about these electric scooters and electric bikes is that the > > riders TOTALLY ignore any law, they are actually quite dangereous. > > Even the average pedal bike rider ignores all the traffic laws. The > > name of the delivery game is how fast you can make your delivery > > period, not how fast you can do it and still respect the traffic > > rules. > > > > If the ebike riders would stop when they are supposed to, ride with > > the traffic, stay on the road, not the sidewalk etc, I'm sure they > > would be supported. > > But > > they don't obey the laws. > > > > Rush Dougherty > > Tucson AZ 85719 > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of EVDL > > Administrator > > via EV > > > Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2015 1:25 PM > > > To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List > > > Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: NYPD busting & seizing escooters & > > > ebicycles > > > > > > Dumb, dumb law. NYC needs low-impact 2-wheel transportation as much > > > as > > any > > other > > > large city. > > > > > > "We try to confiscate them as soon as we see them" is the sort of > > > action > > that > > can give the > > > law a bad name. It sounds too much like the abuse of asset > > > forfeiture > > laws > > that's been in > > > the news for the last few years. > > > > > > These laws need to be modernized, pronto. At the same time, bike > > > riders > > need > > to obey the > > > traffic laws, whether their bikes have motors or not. > > > > > > Here in Ohio, no registration is required for e-bikes under 750 Watts. > > The > > law does require > > > either a driver's license or a "probationary motorized bicycle license" > > which > > you can get at > > > age 14 by passing a test. > > > > > > Not that I'd ever condone breaking the law, but today there's no > > > reason > > that > > an e-bike can't > > > look exactly like an unpowered bike. A modern hub motor can be > > surprisingly > > > inconspicuous. Lithium batteries and wiring can be packaged inside > > > the > > frame > > tubes. > > > > > > In fact powered bikes can be so subtle that for several years now > > > the > > Tour de > > France has > > > been plagued by rumors of "doped bikes" or "mechanical doping." > > > > > > http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest-news/fresh-motorised-dopi > > > ng- > > > claims-ryder-hesjedals-bike-moves-134745 > > > > > > http://v.gd/FjUNaD > > > > > > Anyone trying to ride electrically "under the radar" would need to > > > use > > plenty > > of discretion, > > > which I hope would prevent the kind of shenanigans that seem be be > > raising a > > few gripes in > > > NYC. > > > > > > David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA > > > EVDL Administrator > > > > > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = EVDL > > Information: > > > http://www.evdl.org/help/ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > > > = = > > = = = > > = = = > > > Note: mail sent to "evpost" and "etpost" addresses will not reach me. > > To send > > a private > > > message, please obtain my email address from the webpage > > http://www.evdl.org/help/ . > > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > > > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > > > For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA > > > (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > > For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA ( > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > > > > > > -- > Larry Gales > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev- > evdl.org/attachments/20150711/07504db7/attachment.htm> > _______________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA > (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: not available > Type: application/ms-tnef > Size: 5774 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev- > evdl.org/attachments/20150711/9808be4f/attachment.bin> > _______________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA > (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
