This whole autonomous vehicle circus has been a PR disaster, thanks in large part to Tesla calling their system "autopilot". No one stops to realize the real autopilot (as used in aircraft) is little more than cruise control. And when you're in the vicinity of anything you could hit, you're not permitted to use it.
A fully autonomous road vehicle is a challenge several orders of magnitude more complex. Since everyone is in a frantic race to be the first with a commercially available system, I predict injury and fatality rates will rise while profits take priority over technical maturity, then hopefully peak, fall and level off. You won't find me in such a vehicle until that happens. There's a limit to my desire to be an early adopter. On Jul 25, 2016 1:36 PM, "paul dove via EV" <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: > No one has a working autonomous vehicle including Tesla. Tesla even states > the the driver must monitor the vehicle and warns you when you take your > heads off the wheel > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jul 25, 2016, at 8:59 AM, Peri Hartman via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> > wrote: > > > > GM must have teleported their software staff and prototypes to another > planet because, compared to Google, they sure don't have many miles of > autonomous testing here to brag about. And even Google isn't ready. Or > Tesla. > > > > If you think the world has a problem with terrorism, get ready to watch > out for kamikaze cars ! > > > > Peri > > > > ------ Original Message ------ > > From: "brucedp5 via EV" <ev@lists.evdl.org> > > To: ev@lists.evdl.org > > Sent: 25-Jul-16 12:20:55 AM > > Subject: [EVDL] EVLN: GM’s 1st 200mi EV will launch as a > driverless(autonomous) Lyft platform > > > >> [ref > >> > http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-GM-s-first-200mi-EV-will-launch-as-a-driverless-autonomous-Lyft-platform-td4683041.html > >> ] > >> > >> 'Germany plans “black box” recorder rule for Autopilot-cars' > >> > >> > http://www.techinsider.io/gms-first-autonomous-car-will-be-electric-and-launch-on-lyft-2016-7 > >> GM’s first fully autonomous car will be electric and launch on Lyft > >> 20160718 Cadie Thompson > >> > >> [images > >> > http://static4.techinsider.io/image/578d538088e4a778008b8e38-968/screen%20shot%202016-07-18%20at%206.07.51%20pm.png > >> / Cruise Automation > >> > >> > http://static2.techinsider.io/image/578d52d788e4a78c148b8ea9-1440/chevy%20bolt.jpg > >> Chevy Bolt / Chevrolet > >> ] > >> > >> General Motors' first fully autonomous car will be electric, available > to > >> just about anyone, and it could be here before you know it. > >> > >> The company plans to bring its self-driving cars to the masses by > launching > >> its first driverless on the Lyft platform, Pam Fletcher, executive chief > >> engineer of autonomous tech at GM, told Tech Insider. > >> > >> Fletcher would not share specifics about timing, but she did say the > >> company’s first fully autonomous car will be available via the > ride-sharing > >> service sooner than you may expect. > >> > >> "We have not made that announcement yet, but what I would say is this > is all > >> coming much faster than people anticipate, so I’ll say that much. We > have > >> been transparent about that,” she said. “We are working on an on-demand > >> ride-sharing network with Lyft, it’s not something we are thinking > about, > >> it’s something we are very much readying for consumer use.” > >> > >> Fletcher, who formerly served as GM's executive chief engineer for > electric > >> vehicles, said the company’s first autonomous car would also be > electric. > >> > >> GM, of course, is making a big push into the electric car market with > the > >> launch of the BoltEV, a fully electric, long-range vehicle slated to > roll > >> out later this year. > >> > >> While the BoltEV will be available for purchase, it is specifically > aimed at > >> urban mobility and was designed with ride-sharing in mind, Fletcher > said. > >> > >> Autonomous cars make sense as electric vehicles because they offer the > >> passenger a better experience, she said. > >> > >> “They (EVs) operate very smoothly, they operate very quietly, > seamlessly, > >> and so you can create this very positive experience inside the car,” she > >> said. “People they want that, they want to get in the car and for it to > feel > >> like a cocoon, so they can take a nap or have a conference,” > >> > >> In January at CES, GM announced that it was making a $500 million > investment > >> in Lyft and said that it was working with the ride-sharing company to > create > >> a network of on-demand autonomous vehicles. > >> > >> In March, GM announced it was buying the self-driving car startup Cruise > >> Automation to help strengthen its autonomous efforts and in May it was > >> revealed that Cruise was testing its self-driving tech on the Bolt. > >> > >> However, the company told Tech Insider that currently Lyft’s efforts and > >> Cruise’s Bolt tests are separate programs. But it’s highly likely they > will > >> overlap in the future. > >> > >> According to a Wall Street Journal report published in May, General > Motors > >> and Lyft could begin testing a fleet of self-driving cars on public > roads > >> before the end of the year. > >> > >> Fletcher wouldn’t comment on specifics, but she did hint that the Bolt > would > >> play a big role in the GM’s push into mobility services. > >> > >> "There are a number of things that you can piece together. We > introduced the > >> car about the same time at CES as when we really started talking about > >> mobility and rideshare. So it’s not by coincidence, and if you look at > a lot > >> of aspects of the Bolt EV there are a lot of elements about it that are > >> really crafted around a good ride share application, so that takes it > into > >> the future” she said. > >> > >> "So what I would say is this car is a big part of a transformation of > >> transportation and mobility." > >> [© 2016 Business Insider] > >> ... > >> > http://www.ubergizmo.com/2016/07/gms-self-driving-car-will-be-launched-with-lyft/ > >> GM's Self-Driving Car Will Be Launched With Lyft > >> 07/19/2016 Both companies are also collaborating on a car rental > program > >> for people ... The Bolt is its long-range electric vehicle that's going > to > >> take on the Tesla Model 3 ... > >> ... > >> http://www.getcruise.com/ > >> Cruise Automation > >> ... > >> > http://gmauthority.com/blog/2016/07/gm-paying-cruise-automation-employees-retention-incentives-to-stick-around/ > >> GM Paying Cruise Automation Employees Retention Incentives To Stick > Around > >> JUL 23, 2016 GM clearly has big plans with its latest … > >> > http://gmauthority.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/GM-With-Cruis-Automation-720x340.jpeg > >> > >> > >> [ot > >> > http://www.slashgear.com/germany-plans-black-box-recorder-rule-for-autopilot-style-cars-18448661/ > >> Germany plans “black box” recorder rule for Autopilot-style cars > >> Jul 18, 2016 In recent Tesla incidents, for instance, the cars … > >> ... > >> > https://practicalmotoring.com.au/car-news/autonomous-jaguar-land-rover-technology-wont-get-in-the-way-of-driving-pleasure/ > >> Autonomous Jaguar Land Rover technology won’t get in the way of driving > >> pleasure > >> 20 JUL 2016 > >> ... > >> > http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2016/07/24/gm-uses-delay-fine-tune-its-self-driving-system/87471452/ > >> GM uses delay to fine tune its self-driving system > >> July 24, 2016 ... the steering wheel, and suggested the electric car > >> manufacturer rename the technology that it said has led some owners to > >> disengage completely from driving ... > >> ] > >> ... > >> > http://thenewswheel.com/2017-chevrolet-bolt-ev-set-for-production-in-october/ > >> 2017 Chevrolet Bolt EV Set for Production in October > >> July 22, 2016 It’s hard to believe that the Chevrolet Bolt only … > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> For EVLN EV-newswire posts use: > >> http://evdl.org/evln/ > >> > >> > >> {brucedp.150m.com} > >> > >> -- > >> View this message in context: > http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-GM-s-1st-200mi-EV-will-launch-as-a-driverless-autonomous-Lyft-platform-tp4683044.html > >> Sent from the Electric Vehicle Discussion List mailing list archive at > Nabble.com. > >> _______________________________________________ > >> UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > >> http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > >> Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ > >> Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA ( > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > > > _______________________________________________ > > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > > Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ > > Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA ( > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > > > _______________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ > Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA ( > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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