There's a guy on the Smart Car forums who has created a diagnostic tool
using an Arduino with a CANBus shield that can read the battery voltage
of each of the 93 cells, total voltage, various temperatures,
statistical analysis, all in a few seconds at the stroke of a key.
https://github.com/MyLab-odyssey/ED_BMSdiag
He's clearly figured out some stuff about how the car works.
I'm just finishing up a 3 year lease on a Smart ED and I hate to let it
go. The car has been flawless for 14,000 miles with only the required
10,000 mile checkup. Kelly Blue Book lists the resale value at about
$5,000 so why worry about paying $25,000 for a new battery? If the car
dies badly, buy a new (used) one. I'm sure batteries out of wrecked ones
will be showing up in salvage yards or on eBay too. Car2Go is switching
out 400 electric Smarts for gas ones. No word on what they're doing with
the old ones but I bet there's going to be a stock of batteries
available somewhere.
--Rick
On 10/1/2016 8:10 PM, Mark Hanson via EV wrote:
Hi Folks,
I didn't get a response on the service manual or where to get a battery for
the Smart ED 2013 - 2015 (used Smart) so I'm thinking maybe I should buy
something else (since the shop manuals/batteries are made of Unobtanium).
I Googled Service manuals for the Mitsubishi IMIev and Chevy Spark; were
available online like the Leaf. It also looked like you could monitor
individual battery voltages, not sure if you can do that with the Smart ED.
It looks like Mercedes doesn't want to sell any electric Smart ED's ($25K
for a battery replacement and no Service Manuals available.) The Smart also
wants $80 per month battery rental that the other EV's don't require. I
found from EVwest.com that they have 57V Tesla battery replacement modules
for $1k for the 2013 Smart only, 2014 on is the Deutsche ACCUmotive for $25K
replacement. So maybe I should buy that with a Smart 2013? Sounds like
that may be the only serviceable Smart unless buying two wrecked one's to
combine parts when the cells start to crap out. Or maybe like on
EValbum.com convert one from gas like another guy did on an 05' model - but
it would be nice to have regen.
From: Mark Hanson [mailto:mhan...@hughes.net]
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 7:45 PM
To: 'ev@lists.evdl.org'
Subject: RE: 2014 Smart ED Service Manual Help
Hi Folks,
I was thinking of buying a 2014 Smart ED but I can't find a service
manual/schematics, paid $60 to www.smarttekinfo.com and just a few
pamphlets, marketing fluff. I tried for about $15 www.ALLDATAdiy.com with
similar results. Contacting/emailing Smart just got marketing & $80/mo
battery rental info. I have a Leaf currently and it was easy to
download/print the 3" thick shop manual on battery/charging/traction
controls/schematics but no dice with Smart. When I called the local
Mercedes dealer they wanted $25K for a battery replacement at the typical
60K miles (the Leaf is $5.5K for a battery replacement).
So is the Smart ED a throw-away car that you can't service? Does anyone
know where to get a *service/shop manual* so I can feel comfortable
servicing like my Leaf? Does anyone know where to by *battery cells* or
pack for a Smart ED?
The local Mercedes dealer said they won't bother with Smarts maybe why their
annual sales were 2K and the Leaf was 20K last year. It looks like on
www.batteryuniversity.com that the Volt, Leaf and Smart ED are all NMC
(Nickel Manganese Cobalt cathode with a lithium electrolyte and a graphite
anode) so should have about 60k miles life similar to LiFePO4. The Smart ED
warranty is 4 years 48K miles Smart said without paying $80 battery rent per
month "battery assurance plan" nonsense.
I also use LeafSpy but didn't see info app like that for the Smart ED. I'd
like to replace my electric Ghia www.evalbum.com/4346 soon when it needs $8k
batteries with a $8k 2014 Smart or similar small commuter car to make my 48
miles round trip to work.
Have a renewable energy day,
Mark
Mark E. Hanson
184 Vista Lane
Fincastle, VA 24090
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