Peri, The other (sad) element in the explosion of fake news is that people share something that gives them the desired feeling, without any regards for facts (that is why the "word of the year" is: post-truth) and even when people have zero knowledge on the subject they will confidently share what they see as the solution. Just yesterday I responded to a woman confidently stating that there is not going to be global warming, because the Carbon Monoxide level is rising and with it rising, sunlight gets reflected out of our atmosphere and due to the cooling, land will get covered in snow and the more snow, the more sun radiation will be reflected away so it escalates the cooling of the Earth. I was tempted to confirm that rising CO levels will indeed stop global warming, but not for the reason she quoted. Instead I suggested that she probably meant CO2 and then I repeated established science showing the warming effect of high CO2 levels as well as the disturbing effects that high CO2 levels has as direct effect on living things, such as loss of concentration - at increasing CO2 levels we will actually not be able to function as well as at the CO2 level that we were designed for, so this goes way beyond the global warming and ever-weirder weather and affects us directly.
BTW, this was in response on an article about Solar Activity and because this subject is easily confused, people were discussing that low solar activity means that the earth will get colder, without realizing that the activity that is discussed is the amount of sun spots (magnetic activity on the sun surface, causing ejection of mass from the sun and Northern Lights) but with very little impact on sun light radiation, so virtually no impact on the Earth climate... But you won't believe how misguided some people can be in their ignorance of science, while at the same time being overly confident about their opinion. There is actually a meme about this problem and it goes like this: Why are stupid people so sure about everything while intelligent people doubt so much? I think that rhetoric question captures very well the disaster that social media has become for a lot of areas where opinion counts more than facts, but shouldn't. Cor van de Water Chief Scientist Proxim Wireless office +1 408 383 7626 Skype: cor_van_de_water XoIP +31 87 784 1130 private: cvandewater.info http://www.proxim.com This email message (including any attachments) contains confidential and proprietary information of Proxim Wireless Corporation. If you received this message in error, please delete it and notify the sender. Any unauthorized use, disclosure, distribution, or copying of any part of this message is prohibited. -----Original Message----- From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of Peri Hartman via EV Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 7:46 AM To: ev@lists.evdl.org Subject: Re: [EVDL] A. D. Little EV vs ICE report Yes, we likely will see more fake news or misinformation about EVs. The best, in my opinion, is to educate people. Be conspicuous. Tell people the facts when you can. Don't put more attention on pieces of fake news. And, yes, fake news has been around for a while. I suspect you can go back to the origin of humanity. The big difference is social media. It allows spreading info amazingly quickly and based on popularity, not substance. Peri ------ Original Message ------ From: "tomw via EV" <ev@lists.evdl.org> To: ev@lists.evdl.org Cc: Sent: 12-Dec-16 6:38:24 AM Subject: Re: [EVDL] A. D. Little EV vs ICE report >Although "fake news" has recently been noted by some media outlets, it >has >been around for decades. The first organized effort in the U.S. began >with >Edward Bernays, Sigmund Freud's nephew. Bernays coined the term >"public >relations" because he said "propaganda" had negative connotations. >Conservative segments of industry have built up a widespread network of >PR >firms such as Hill and Knowles which specialize in misrepresentation to >spread doubt on science which negatively effects profits, and think >tanks >such as the New Enterprise and Marshal Institutes over the last 30 >years. >The concerted effort of these has created an alternative reality for >those >who believe them. They work closely with media outlets to give them >reports >that are publication-ready, so they go right into the media as-received >from >the think tank with no critical review, saving the media companies the >"trouble" and cost of investigative reporting at the cost of the truth. > >Bernay's efforts are detailed in this BBC special: > >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJ3RzGoQC4s > >Don't be put off by the melodrama of the beginning with Sigmund Freud >and >yelling crowds, the film is very informative. > >Expect to see much more of this on EVs now that the Koch brothers have >started funding an effort against them. > >-- >View this message in context: >http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/A-D-Little -EV-vs-ICE-report-tp4684797p4684809.html >Sent from the Electric Vehicle Discussion List mailing list archive at >Nabble.com. >_______________________________________________ >UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub >http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org >Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ >Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA >(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
