On 08/11/2018 12:15 PM, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote:
We have had three Leafs. The 2012 Leaf had a bad battery. We turned it back
in. Our 2013 Leaf has normal battery degradation. We can still eek out a
hundred miles range on the freeway. This is at 42k miles. Still very useful.
Our 2016 Nissan is still showing 150 miles range at times and this is driven
miles plus guessometer. On our last trip to Southern California from San
Francisco we went from Salinas to San Luis Obispo 135 miles and still had 20
percent left. The 30 kw Leaf is fantastic. The IMEV simply in it's original
configuration does not meet our needs Nissan has made the effort to improve
the batteries of their cars. The IMEV in my opinion is an embarrassment to the
EV design community. We paid 14k for the 2013 with 2,600 miles on the clock.
The 30kw was EVen better at 13,550. We will buy this car after the lease.
Sorry you had a bad experience with your Leaf but almost everyone with a 2011
or 2012 had a bad experience. We also needed fast charging. I don't believe
the IMEV has fast charging. The IMEV is a putt putt for city use similar to a
smart car. Every car has it's mission but to compare an IMEV to a Nissan Leaf
is to compare a Nissan Leaf to a Tesla. In price/performance the Leaf is a
clear winner. It gets me where I want to go. It is comfortable. It is
inexpensive. I don't care how it looks David. I just wish it had the
aerodynamics of a Hyundai. Lawrence Rhodes
You don't mention personal experience with an imiev.
Is "putt put" intended to be derogatory?
I thought Leafs were 80kw. Are they now offering a low power model to
increase efficiency?
Both my imievs have standard chademo charging though I almost never use
it. Chademo charging was, I believe, a $700 option on my Leaf. I did
not buy it.
I use my imievs to travel rural roads to towns up to about 30 miles
distant. I typically drive below 60 mph to maximize range. But they
will go 80 mph or so. They are very rarely driven in a city.
I have a fair amount of experience with the three cars mentioned.
Clearly, a Tesla is superior to an imiev. But, IMHO, both Teslas and
imievs are superior to Leafs in all ways that I care about. My low Leaf
rating is due to unreliability and lack of support. Mitsubishi may well
have the same support problems as Nissan but I've never needed imiev
support.
Of course, we all make our own judgments. And you are welcome to yours.
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