Except it’s been shown that you hear the tires before you hear the engine
Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 16, 2019, at 9:56 AM, brucedp5 via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: > > > > https://www.horseandhound.co.uk/news/concerns-raised-parliament-electric-cars-danger-horses-681653 > Concerns raised in parliament over electric cars’ danger to horses > 16 March, 2019 Sarah Radford > > [image > https://keyassets.timeincuk.net/inspirewp/live/wp-content/uploads/sites/14/2019/03/15391380_1355784697800054_1586142087495910885_o-920x518.jpg > ] > > An MP has raised concerns in Parliament over the danger silent electric cars > pose to horses on the roads. > > Simon Hoare, MP for North Dorset, questioned transport minister Jesse Norman > MP about whether protective measures would be brought in to safeguard riders > as the use of environmentally friendly vehicles increases. > > Mr Hoare, whose wife and three daughters ride, and who has ridden himself > since childhood, said that while electric cars are “environmentally > welcome”, their silence often presents “a huge problem for riders” owing to > the “nervousness that is often caused in horses by these silent vehicles > either going past or accelerating from a stop”. > > “Will my hon. friend take this issue up with the car manufacturers to see > what can be done to ensure that there is safety and environmentalism on our > rural roads?” Mr Hoare asked the transport minister on 14 February. > > Mr Norman replied that the government has recently been working to > acknowledge horse riders within the Highway Code review, noting the > “importance that we place on close passing”. > > “(Mr hon friend] will also be aware that electric cars make a noise above a > certain speed because of vehicle tyre slap. At low speeds, vehicle type > approval regulations will mandate sound generators on new electric and > hybrid electric vehicles from July this year,” he said. > > Mr Hoare told H&H he had been motivated to raise the question in the House > of Commons after a silent vehicle passed a friend of his who was riding, > making the horse “go bananas”. > > [image] Driver caught on camera skidding past horse at speed gets ‘advice’ > from police > > Hat camera footage shows the car veering dangerously near the horse > > [image] ‘Like running the London Marathon’: five-year-old disabled rider > takes on charity trek > > Doctors said Daniel Lee Barrett wouldn’t survive past the age of two > > “What seems to trouble horses is not the speed of the car but the movement > when there is no sound, particularly when a car has pulled in to allow > horses to go past and then suddenly starts to move with no warning,” he > said. “It has been one of the unintended consequences of electric vehicles, > and I am not blaming manufacturers or users, improving air quality has to be > welcomed, as does less reliance on fossil fuels.” > > The Conservative MP said he was “really pleased to hear from the minister > that regulations are now in place so that all new electric vehicles will > produce a noise at low speeds.” > > The new guidelines will not apply to vehicles on the road before July 2019. > [© horseandhound.co.uk] > > > [ref > http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/Horsemen-uk-fear-quiet-EVs-koch-koolaid-tp4692977.html > Horsemen.uk fear quiet EVs (?koch-koolaid?) > %The EV community has already dealt with complaints from the blind, enacting > laws that require EVs be noisy [ > http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=search_page&node=413529&query=blind+quiet+safe&days=0 > ]. Now, horse riders complain... > Horse rider safety fears over quieter electric cars > Mar 04 2019 ... Simon Hoare has concerns about horse rider safety with > increasing numbers of electric cars ... > CONCERNS have been raised about dangers for horse riders with increasing > numbers of quieter electric cars. > > North Dorset MP Simon Hoare quizzed transport minister Jesse Norman MP on > the matter in relation to what assessments had been made for the safety > needs of horse riders on the public highway. > Mr Hoare asked if the issue around electric cars could be taken up with > manufacturers. > > "The rise of electric vehicles is, of course, environmentally welcome. > However, their silence often presents a huge problem for riders, horses and, > indeed, other road users as a result of the nervousness that is often caused > in horses by these silent vehicles either going past or accelerating from a > stop," said Mr Hoare. > > Mr Norman said horse riders are recognised in the highway code, with the > importance placed on the avoidance of close passing. > "At low speeds, vehicle type approval regulations will mandate sound > generators on new electric and hybrid electric vehicles from July this > year," said Mr Norman. > He added that the area was being reviewed by the Department for Transport. > ] > > > > > For EVLN EV-newswire posts use: > http://evdl.org/archive/ > > > {brucedp.neocities.org} > > -- > Sent from: http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/ > _______________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
