I have always thought temperature could be used in this way.

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> On Oct 1, 2019, at 1:30 AM, Gary Krysztopik via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote:
> 
> Sorry, no help to you but I always wondered if thermal imaging could be
> used for a cheaper/simpler? BMS (assuming one had a clear visual of the
> entire pack).
> 
> On Mon, Sep 30, 2019 at 9:08 PM Mr. Sharkey via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org>
> wrote:
> 
>> Time to turn up the dial on the technical channel.
>> 
>> After converting my car to a lightly-used set of Thundersky 160's,
>> I've finally gotten around to having some thermal images taken of the
>> cells after running the car up to temperature. My purpose was to make
>> sure that none of my cell interconnect wiring (copper strap stock)
>> was heating up. What I found was somewhat unexpected. One of the 38
>> cells was showing an elevated temperature from the rest.
>> 
>> First, the IR image of the right-hand half of the pack, taken from
>> behind the car. the suspect cell is at the center cross-hairs:
>> 
>> http://www.westlanetv.org/~sharkey/evgfx/IR_0677.jpg
>> 
>> A close-up of the cell, looking from the front of the pack. It's been
>> photoshopped to blend the IR image with the visible image to provide
>> some perspective of the actual appearance:
>> 
>> http://www.westlanetv.org/~sharkey/evgfx/Hot_Cell_2.jpg
>> 
>> The car ran a 15 mile trip at about 55 MPH, pulling 100 - 125 amperes
>> most of the way. A couple of 275 - 300 amp sprints pulling out into
>> traffic, etc.  Photos were taken immediately thereafter.
>> 
>> All of the cells had been carefully (manually) balanced a few days
>> before the photos were taken. During balancing, this cell was about
>> 15 ampere-hours lower than most of the rest of the pack, but not the
>> lowest of the 8 cells that needed attention. It came right up with a
>> balancing charge. None of the other cells showed any variance in
>> temperature in this series of photos.
>> 
>> Questions for the list:
>> 
>> The cell isn't actually "hot" but it's obviously warmer than the
>> rest. What's everyone's take on this one cell warming up? Can I just
>> assume that it may have higher internal resistance, and therefore
>> more heating under load? Is the heating indicative of a coming
>> (perhaps spectacular) failure?
>> 
>> I've got about 1,600 miles on this new pack, and it seems to be
>> performing well. I'd like to keep using it in this configuration, but
>> if it seems risky to continue loading this one cell, it ~could~ be
>> jumpered out of the pack (not my first choice).
>> 
>> Opinions or advice?
>> 
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