Your statement about Toyota not making money on the Mirai is pretty silly. Who knows if they will make money on it, but they didn’t make money on the Prius for a number of years. And the Prius was huge success. It became the number one selling car in California.
Did the RAV4-EV make money? Is that even meaningful? By the way, I actually OWN a Mirai. My wife thinks it’s the best car she ever had. And she found it more comfortable (and a LOT cheaper) than the Tesla S I urged her to consider. They’re both great cars - in my opinion, of course. - Mark Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone > On Dec 8, 2019, at 10:10 PM, brucedp5 via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: > > > (TMC could never make money on the Mirai &h2) > https://www.forbes.com/sites/brookecrothers/2019/12/08/who-wins-the-ev-race-who-killed-the-electric-car-director-on-tesla-gm-toyota-model-3-cybertruck-elon-musk-and-who-prevails/#15b059de474c > The EV Resistance: Gas Automakers Vs Tesla > Dec 8, 2019 Brooke Crothers > > [image > https://specials-images.forbesimg.com/imageserve/528168202/960x0.jpg > GENERAL MOTORS PRESENTS ITS ELECTRIC CAR EV1 (Photo by Kim Kulish/Sygma via > Getty Images) SYGMA VIA GETTY IMAGES > > https://specials-images.forbesimg.com/imageserve/5dec96ceb269e900075da7f2/960x0.jpg > Tesla Cybertruck CREDIT: TESLA > ] > > General Motors and Toyota were early leaders in electric vehicles. But a lot > has changed in 20 years. > > I recently spoke with Chris Paine, director of the documentary “Who Killed > the Electric Car” (2006) and the sequel “Revenge of the Electric Car” > (2011), and a longtime follower of the EV and Tesla. > > “Who Killed the Electric Car” documented the short-lived commercialization > of the EV1 and the RAV4. GM eventually decided to terminate the EV1 and > seized and destroyed all of the cars held by U.S. leasees. The documentary > highlights the protests from owners, who revered and adored the car. Some* > resisted returning the car to GM. > > In “Revenge of the Electric Car” Paine documented Elon Musk’s struggles to > keep Tesla afloat in its early days and GM’s development of the Chevrolet > Volt [pih] in the throes of bankruptcy. > > Tesla’s eventual success overshadowed GM’s and Toyota’s early EV leadership. > GM, with the EV1, and Toyota, with the original RAV4 EV. The EV1 went into > production in 1996, the RAV4 EV 1997. > > Paine was inspired by the EV1. He told me, “I didn’t even mean to start > driving electric when I did. With the EV1, I just couldn’t believe how fast > it was.” ... > _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
