We have 1999 odyssey along with a Bolt and Volt. The odyssey is the work truck- 
sees just a few thousand miles a year. At the moment only the drivers seat is 
in as I used it to haul 16’ boards for my deck (hard to do with a pickup). The 
‘bed’ happens to be the height of the Lowe’s lumber cart so I just slide them 
in. 4x8 sheets fit in flat with back closed if I move the drivers seat forward. 
12’ boards fit with back closed too. As I recall, i have put my elec trak 
inside it also with back closed. 

-Steve

> On Apr 4, 2020, at 2:17 PM, Lee Hart via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote:
> 
> Peri Hartman via EV wrote:
>> I agree, using a pickup truck for hauling around supplies and tools
>> doesn't make sense in many cases. Exposed to the weather, theft, and
>> higher to lift things in and out.
>> 
>> I have a 20 year old minivan which I use for hauling. I can get 10'
>> lumber in it and close the back. 16' is fine except on the freeway.
>> Garbage, tools, everything else, usually is easy to get in and out.
> 
> I used to drive minivans, too. Great for hauling stuff that didn't fit in my 
> EVs. I've had a 1960 Corvair van a 1972 Chevy, a 1987 and 1994 Dodge 
> Caravans, and finally a 2001 Toyota Sienna.
> 
> The Sienna was the last straw. By that time, minivans (like pickups) had 
> turned into people-movers; not thing-movers. I couldn't get a 4x8' sheet of 
> plywood, or my garden tractor, or my bicycles inside in any reasonable way 
> (all the previous ones did). I got rid of it after just one year, and got a 
> VW Eurovan. That *could* haul a lot of stuff, while being relatively small 
> and easy to maneuver. But it was still bigger and heavier than all the 
> previous vans. Reliability and service was also a problem.
> 
> Now, I have a 2010 Chevy Colorado pickup for hauling. Not a fancy new 
> people-hauler; but a real pickup truck, and the smallest I could find any 
> more. 30 mpg, full length bed, no extended cab, no power windows, no power 
> seats, no NAV, no fancy radio; just a basic work truck. It's perfect for when 
> I need to tow or haul stuff. I can reach the center of the bed standing 
> beside it. There's a tonneau cover to keep stuff dry. But when it wears out, 
> there is *nothing* on the US market today that can replace it.
> 
> Lee Hart
> -- 
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> our deals and decisions, and she has more votes, a longer memory,
> and a sterner sense of justice than we do. -- Wendell Berry
> --
> Lee Hart, 814 8th Ave N, Sartell MN 56377, www.sunrise-ev.com
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