On 25 Nov 2020 at 22:46, Peri Hartman via EV wrote:

> Maybe outside the US, which in the long run affects the US, they're
> past the tipping point. 

I think this is true.  Governments in the EU and Asia have committed to CO2 
reduction.  They see EVs as part of the plan and are promoting them.  

For example, during the first wave of the health emergency in France, the 
Macron administration offered French automakers help, including an increase 
in the EV purchase subsidy from 6000 to 7000 euros.  The automakers wanted 
subsidies for ICEV purchases too.  The answer was "nope."  

How much that established market actually affects the US is debatable.  

The fact that they're making EVs for other nations at least makes it 
possible for them to offer them here.  However, the stringent fleet average 
CO2 standard there mean that EU gets first priority for their EV production, 
so they can still sell their more profitable ICEVs there.  

Also, just as the automakers have never offered their most efficient ICEVs 
in the US, they aren't likely to offer their most efficient EVs here either. 
If they let us have anything, we'll mostly get the hulking EV-SUVs that they 
think will sell well.  They're pushing those in Europe too, BTW, for the 
same reason that they're pushing their ICEV utes.

> Well, the story goes on, but you get the point. People, like my friend, 
> are very interested but they are not at all committed. The manufacturers could
> ditch EVs in an instant and not dent sales in the near term.

It's always been that way with most of my friends.  No matter how good EV 
range gets, somehow, it's just never enough.  To them, EVs are a great idea -
 for some other person.  

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