I really don’t know.

I was just saying what I thought would make sense.


- Mark

Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone

> On May 20, 2021, at 9:43 AM, Glenn Brooks via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote:
> 
> Has Ford even mentioned a fuel cell at this point?
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On May 20, 2021, at 7:11 AM, Mark Abramowitz via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Didn’t exactly sneak it in...just put it where it made sense.
>> 
>> I agree about a range extended, but for those who want the option to pull 
>> lots of power out at a construction site, or *maybe* even a landscaper that 
>> need to charge their batteries for their equipment, a fuel cell for 
>> auxiliary power may make more sense.
>> 
>> - Mark
>> 
>> Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone
>> 
>>>> On May 20, 2021, at 7:03 AM, Peri Hartman via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Haha, I new you'd sneak in fuel cells. :) I'll give you this. I think it 
>>> makes more sense to do range extension with a fuel cell than with an ICE.
>>> 
>>> Does anyone have an idea which would be more compact for a given amount of 
>>> net energy: fuel cell + tank or battery ?
>>> 
>>> Peri
>>> 
>>> << Annoyed by leaf blowers ? https://quietcleanseattle.org/ >>
>>> 
>>> ------ Original Message ------
>>> From: "Mark Abramowitz" <ma...@enviropolicy.com>
>>> To: "Peri Hartman" <pe...@kotatko.com>; "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" 
>>> <ev@lists.evdl.org>
>>> Sent: 19-May-21 10:39:27 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [EVDL] Ford F-150 Reveal
>>> 
>>>> I really don’t care - if it gets people interested in EVs as a cool, high 
>>>> performance vehicle, that’s great.
>>>> 
>>>> This is a middle America meat and potatoes vehicle.
>>>> 
>>>> Over time it will get lighter, and what you saw was one with added weight 
>>>> from a larger battery pack and other extras.
>>>> 
>>>> I wouldn’t be surprised that option disappeared over time, and if you need 
>>>> all that extra juice, you’ll be able to get a fuel cell electric version. 
>>>> (Sorry, that’s just the more fitting EV option for that need)
>>>> 
>>>> I see this vehicle as game-changing as the Tesla.
>>>> 
>>>> Then there are the other two that they drove up on stage - both look 
>>>> great, but actually the light commercial vehicle is of greater import and 
>>>> impact.
>>>> 
>>>> - Mark
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>>> On May 19, 2021, at 8:59 PM, Peri Hartman via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I think it will be popular. So much for making efficient vehicles - one 
>>>>> estimate I read put the small pack at 115kWh. But most buyers won't care. 
>>>>> They want the F-150 look, the power, and the range. It must weigh a ton. 
>>>>> No, make that 3 tons.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Peri
>>>>> 
>>>>> << Annoyed by leaf blowers ? https://quietcleanseattle.org/ >>
>>>>> 
>>>>> ------ Original Message ------
>>>>> From: "Lawrence Rhodes via EV" <ev@lists.evdl.org>
>>>>> To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <ev@lists.evdl.org>
>>>>> Cc: "Lawrence Rhodes" <primobass...@sbcglobal.net>
>>>>> Sent: 19-May-21 7:18:43 PM
>>>>> Subject: [EVDL] Ford F-150 Reveal
>>>>> 
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yjisj5T0VqE Bigger frunk than Tesla. 
>>>>>> Same price for the low end model. Lots of intelligent features. This is 
>>>>>> a real competitor to the Cybertruck. Lawrence Rhodes
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