Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2021 15:56:46 -0700 From: "Mr. Snarkey" <mrshar...@juno.com> To: ev@lists.evdl.org Subject: Re: [EVDL] FTC vote on ?Right to Repair? enforcement Message-ID: <aabssgnt5a6ub...@smtpout04.dca.untd.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
> You just don't know what you are missing I would encourage you to refrain from making assumptions on which you have no basis to make a judgement. My "conversion" is a factory conversion, not a home-built conversion It nicely handles my needs, which are modest I ~have~ driven it "cross county", but I don't expect that you'd know how or why Some of us on the EVDL have different needs from yours. Mine include not driving a bug-eyed clown car that I can't fix myself. If they are so wonderful, why did it take three of them to go 160k? But I'd never assume to judge you or your needs based on mine Enjoy your solar car fantasies, everyone needs to dream Mr. Snarky, The EVDL is about sharing knowledge. Please enlighten us on how you can drive a factory conversion cross country and what that factory conversion was? In my case the first was a lease. By 30k miles it was obvious the 2012 Leaf battery was a bummer. We didn't buy that lease out. The second bought used was a 2013 Leaf for $14k 0% Nissan approved used car loan. 2,400 miles on the clock. It was like new. Paid off in 5 years at $256 a month. We just paid the simple principal. That car has over 60k miles on it. I just drove it 50 miles to Napa CA. It still had 52% charge left. Got a free Volta charge for the return trip. The third Leaf was $13,550 total including incentives and lease cost($216 a month for 3 years) plus $9,500 dollar buyout after lease. This car also has over 60k on the clock and we can coax 135 miles out of it down wind at 55mph. I will never again depend on anything I build as the cost to benefit just isn't worth it unless I can work with the dregs of the EV world. For instance an eGo scooter(got it free) modified with a couple of $100 dollar 12v Valence batteries. Had to baby it up hills. Worked reasonably well for around San Francisco. One of a kind. It's now hard to get Valence 40ah batteries for $100. I spent over 10k dollars for an abandoned conversion including a pallet of 8v batteries. It to was the first of the bubble cars http://www.evalbum.com/418 I stuffed 1,200 pounds of lead in and succeeded in not losing any interior space. It was good for the 2000's but didn't hold a candle to a simple Leaf and because of that I drove veggie diesel for a decade. Because of all these things including vegetable oil taking over my house I couldn't be more happy with my bug eyed car which I am sure if I had to I could simply diagnose and bolt in the proper part when needed...how hard could it be? So happy not to be wrenching unless I "want" to. Yes. I hold strong opinions due to experience which I hope not to repeat. BTW solar cars are not fantasy https://solarteameindhoven.nl/ One just has to give up steel vehicles. Lawrence Rhodes _______________________________________________ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org
