Interesting idea! The other issue with this approach is cost. Buying piece 
parts one at a time will cost much more than buying a production car.


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On Sunday, August 1, 2021, 8:44 AM, Collin Kidder via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> 
wrote:

That does lead to another potential idea, though. What if an open
source design specifically called for OEM parts that *ARE* easily
available and cheap? This isn't so far-fetched or weird. Tesla uses
Mercedes steering systems and a Ford accelerator pedal. They probably
use other parts from existing cars that I'm just not aware of. What if
an open design used parts from other cars and the real open source
magic was the layout that integrates it all together? I have no idea
if a frame could reasonably be constructed custom. But, existing OEM
frames and/or rolling chassis do exist. Control systems for OEM
components also already exist. The OpenInverter project has a lot of
custom boards to control things from Tesla, Nissan, etc.

The big problem here is probably one of scalability. You can put the
plans together and tell people to buy a Bosch iBooster for their
breaks and a Mercedes steering rack, ford accelerator pedal, Nissan
Leaf drivetrain with an OpenInverter control board, etc, but can 100
people actually get those parts? 1000 people? These things exist but
can they be found in sufficient quantities to make it worthwhile to
do?

On Sat, Jul 31, 2021 at 4:56 PM Lawrence Rhodes via EV
<ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote:
>
> Nice sentiment boss man but in mass production a power window is cheaper to 
> engineer and produce than a crank up window unless you use the old fashion 
> railway windows you lift up and down by muscle gravity...you might not know 
> what I'm talking about these are so old. So the idea of simplifying in the 
> way you think is again going back to the notion of carrying a horse with you 
> in case you run out of gas. The cost of our gadgets is trivial in mass 
> production. Might as well go with it. I can replace my electric power mirrors 
> for $20. When it malfunctions or breaks off I replace it. Three 10mm nuts. 
> EVerything on cars is like that now. All neatly in a row with a part number 
> and made in the millions. Available on eBay.com. The only thing I wish for is 
> no proprietary parts. When you want a turn signal just one assembly. Bumper 
> one assembly...etc..air conditioning unit...one choice...would be a lot 
> cheaper and easier. Lawrence Rhodes
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