I really don’t know anything about the ability of the tanks to age and develop 
cracks over time.

Can you expand on that?

- Mark

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> On Aug 15, 2021, at 4:33 PM, Peter Eckhoff via EV <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Nathan,
> 
> I was thinking of 700 bar tanks with 3 per car and several hundred
> million cars (not just Camrys) being made with these tanks.  As with
> you, I would not want to be in or near such a car when it let go.  The
> longer they are in a car, they will likely age and develop cracks.
> 
> There was a reference to a company called Plastic Kinetics that has
> developed a way of storing hydrogen on thin film
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brEm4mEizns
> 
> If this is true and viable, it "solves" one of the major road blocks
> to adoption; the storage of hydrogen at reasonable pressures.
> 
> The other major problems have been the use of platinum in creating PEM
> fuel cells and the production of hydrogen.  There has been a lot of
> hype on the later.
> 
> Until I can go into a dealer, buy a HFCEV, and drive to some remote
> part of the country and not worry about a hydrogen supply, I'm
> sticking with a BEV.
> 
> At least with a Tesla, there were a number of occasions where the
> Tesla where you can be in the middle of nowhere and recharge.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> Peter
> 
> 
>> On Sun, Aug 15, 2021 at 6:18 PM nathan christiansn via EV
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Manufacturing defects in a Camry? I?m not sure what you are talking about.
>> No Camrys involved. Tanks get tested. If you are trying to imply that they
>> are dangerous, well so is everything. Risks get managed. Some get managed
>> better than others. Batteries have their own risks, too, as does any other
>> energy storage mechanism.
>> 
>> Umm… here’s the problem. Having a 5,000 PSI hydrogen storage tank sitting
>> under your hood is like having 50 pounds of tannerite sitting in your trunk
>> at all times. If you get into an accident and that hydrogen tank is
>> damaged, the results will be catastrophic to say the least. Yes, lithiums
>> have their risks too, but they are still a lot safer than a 5000 PSI vessel
>> full of flammable gas.
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