ah, i can see that could be confusing. i wonder if it would be better to do nothing other than a little resistance. perhaps it could behave differently if you were turning into another vehicle, or does it have false positives for that, too ?
peri << Do leaf blowers annoy you ? http://quietcleanseattle.org >> ________________________________ From: Peter Eckhoff via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2021 09:16 To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List Cc: Peter Eckhoff Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: NHTSA to investigate Tesla / Emergency Vehicle Crashes I test drove a Model Y yesterday and I engaged Auto Pilot. At a major intersection, I was turning left. AutoPilot couldn't fine the turn lane lines and threw up a bunch of warning messages, the wheel vibrated as a signal it starts for not staying in line. The lines had worn away. I had my hands on the wheel and I took over. I was expecting a reaction but the sequence and speed of events was still "unexpected". The messages and signal vibration all happened seemingly at once. I'm not thrilled with AutoPilot. It's good but not fully reliable. I've always thought car systems should be designed to make us better and safer drivers. On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 11:11 AM Peri Hartman via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: > > that's what i don't understand. if you're paying attention, how can autopilot > cause an accident ? > > to compare it to aviation autopilot, the pilot can "over muscle" the > autopilot easily. if that were to fail for some reason, the autopilot can be > quickly disabled. > > in other words, if you're driving and auto pilot starts to send you out of > your lane, it should be trivial to correct it back to where you want to be. > > what an i not understanding ? > > peri > > << Do leaf blowers annoy you ? http://quietcleanseattle.org >> > ________________________________ > From: jim--- via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> > Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2021 07:27 > To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List > Cc: j...@k6ccc.org > Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: NHTSA to investigate Tesla / Emergency Vehicle > Crashes > > > > The US government has opened a formal investigation into Tesla´s driver- > > assistance system known as Autopilot after a series of collisions with > > parked emergency vehicles. > Whether there is an issue that makes it more likely for a Tesla on AutoPilot > to drive into emergency lights, I wonder how many of those crashes would have > been prevented if the driver was paying attention and had their hands on the > wheel so they could override the AP? As I recall (and I don't have a Tesla), > the driver is required to keep his / her hands on the wheel at all times. > 73 > ----- > Jim Walls - K6CCC > j...@k6ccc.org > _______________________________________________ > Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org > No other addresses in TO and CC fields > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ > LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20210818/a0d29de2/attachment.html> > _______________________________________________ > Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org > No other addresses in TO and CC fields > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ > LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org _______________________________________________ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20210818/a40869a0/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org