But the BS factor is clear when you read the conclusion that driving electric costs more than gasoline. One only needs to drive an electric car for a few months to know that is wrong.
Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Sunday, October 24, 2021, 11:47 AM, Mark Abramowitz via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: I had to actually look (skim) at the study. It appears to be a serious look, and is the first of a series on the “EV transition”, so they will do more, and much of you will have to pay for. They do *exclude* some costs, so it could be criticized for that, but at least they are transparent in their methodology. That lends itself to making intelligent criticisms (Iike their cost numbers on Level 1 chargers), and repeating the analysis with different assumptions. As far as Level 1, they acknowledge that most vehicles come with that. They amortize the cost over five years (seems a bit short to me, but I don’t know how often they fail). They assume that if you mostly charge at home, you will install Level 2, with an annual cost of $320 . $120/year is for level 1 - my guess is that they assume that even if you get it with car, you are still paying for it, though if the retail replacement cost is $600, using that number seems excessive. I’m guessing on this, and perhaps a closer look would provide more clarity. But there is nothing to prevent you from going back and subtracting out that annual cost. In my opinion, even if you don’t like the assumptions, if you’re into this kind of analysis, this is a serious effort, and worthwhile for assessing and modifying the very detailed methodology. - Mark Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone > On Oct 24, 2021, at 12:15 AM, Lawrence Rhodes via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> > wrote: > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 6 > > Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2021 17:22:08 -0700 > > From: Mark Abramowitz <ma...@enviropolicy.com> > > To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List <ev@lists.evdl.org> > > Subject: Re: [EVDL] Michigan still spouting FUD. From the Detroit not > > so free press. > > Message-ID: <a31f823a-5cf7-488c-b87e-5b5901afb...@enviropolicy.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > > I know nothing about Level 1 charger costs, so did a quick Google, found this: > > > > https://blog.carvana.com/2021/07/how-much-does-it-cost-to-install-an-ev-charger/ > > > > ? For example, the Level 1 charger costs between $300 to $600 before labor, > which stands at about $1,000 to $1,700.? > > > > Is this wrong? > > > > - Mark > > > > Sent from my Fossil Fuel powered iPhone > > Very wrong. For one thing level one evse are standard OEM equipment that > comes with the car. Most garages have a level one plug which is the same plug > a cell phone, toaster or lamp would use. No one would permanently install a > level one EVSE. I don't bother permanently installing my level 2 EVSE. If you > needed level one they are about $175 on eBay. If you looked you could > probably find one cheaper. That's why I was out when she said $600 for level > 1. That is absurd. Lawrence Rhodes > _______________________________________________ > Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org > No other addresses in TO and CC fields > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ > LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > _______________________________________________ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20211026/1572fedc/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org
