Mark can you substantiate that statement?

Thanks, Dan

Dan     520-834-4176     I10 and Twin Peaks

On 10/30/2022 3:15 PM, Mark Abramowitz via EV wrote:
Don’t forget that recycling of lead acid batteries contaminates the communities 
around them, creating major health problems to those near them and downwind.



- Mark

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On Oct 30, 2022, at 1:56 PM, Lee Hart via EV<ev@lists.evdl.org>  wrote:

Peri Hartman wrote:
There's been a move back to LiFePo because it doesn't use cobalt. What
else can be done?
EV List Lackey wrote:
Nickel metal hydride?
There are actually lots of rechargeable battery technologies that could be 
used. Each has different strengths and weaknesses.

It's unfortunate that manufacturers tend to prefer a monoculture. "One thing to rule 
them all". But anything that you try to apply to 8 billion people is bound to cause 
unforeseen problems. Different applications should really use different solutions.

Lead-acid is cheap, and widely recyclable. But it's relatively heavy and has a 
low energy density. It still makes sense for short-range EVs like golf carts, 
fork lifts, scooters, etc. Also, don't forget that virtually every ICE is still 
using lead-acids.

Nickel-based batteries (nickel-iron, nickel-cadmium, nimh) have higher energy 
density and longer life, and the materials are relatively abundant. Nickel is 
expensive, but fairly easy to recycle (though it's not being widely done for 
batteries).

Lithium-based batteries have the highest energy density, but are expensive, 
less safe, and (at least for the present) not being recycled.

And, there are lots of other chemistries that could be used. We should be 
exploring *every* option; not just blindly picking one.

Lee Hart

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