On 6/18/23 19:37, Jay Summet via EV wrote:

Using a wall mounted L2 EVSE is nice, but many "portable" EVSE's provide plenty of amps and qualify as a "level 2" even if they are not wall mounted. (look for a 32 amp or higher one that plugs into a NEMA 14-50 receptacle)

However, even a L1 "portable" EVSE that charges at only 8 or 12 amps, even at 120 volts can work for many EV users. As long as you can easily park/charge overnight, and have a large enough battery (and a low enough average driving distance requirement) even a "garden hose" can keep your EV fully topped up.  12 hours of charging a day can get you 20-40 miles of range every night. If you drive less than that on average, you will be fine unless/until you need to take back to back long trips, at which point you may need to visit a DCFC (Level 3) fast charger.

Agree.

I carry both a Mobile Connector and a cheap 16 amp EVSE which costs ~$150.  The cheap EVSE can also use 200/240 as is available in hotels as heater/AC outlets and can give about twice the power as lower voltage.  I haven't recently used/tested 200+ vac.

I failed to carry my TT30 Mobile Connector adapter so I bought TT30P to "regular" 120R adapter from an RV place.  I plug into that with a "regular" 120P pigtail that goes into a 14-50R into which my Mobile Connector plugs.  I have to set the current back to about 20amps on the car.

Normal split phase power gives me 5mph on the readily available block heater outlets.  Three phase or generator power gives less power, maybe 3mph.

The above TT30 setup gives around 10mph.

Bottom line: I get 50+ miles on overnight stays using block heater outlets and ~100 miles from a "30 amp" TT30.  Sometimes, I stop early in order to get more charge.  Beyond Ft St John, "50 amp" RV outlets are extremely rare.

The above range additions should be about right for both Tesla M3 and MY.

After my recent trip experiences, I've decided I want a Maxwell type conversion van with at least a 300 mile battery AND perhaps 3+kw of deployable PV.  Maybe something that rolls up.  Ideas solicited.  The argument that large batteries are unnecessary due to good train service in France will fall on deaf ears.


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