On 19 Dec 2023 at 13:13, John Lussmyer via EV wrote: > Did they adjust for miles driven?
This seems to be based on insurance claims and/or accident reports, so probably not. On 19 Dec 2023 at 13:23, Cor van de Water via EV wrote: > Of course Tesla vehicles are used *many* more miles (in long daily > commutes) than other vehicles, especially with gas so high in cost. Well ... maybe not. This article https://electrek.co/2023/12/19/tesla-drivers-have-highest-accident-rate- despite-autopilot-claim-lying/ or https://v.gd/HvpsjX says that Tesla owners drive fewer miles per year than the US average - about 10k vs 12k. I agree that it would be interesting to correct for miles driven. But there are other factors to consider and adjust for. How about age? Some of the vehicles with the lowest accident rates are makes which tend to have older owners - Lincoln, Buick, Cadillac, Mercury. Well then, how old? Older people are normally more cautious and stable drivers, but after a certain point their reaction time goes down and their vision dims. Also, older folks normally drive less. And Tesla drivers are younger than those in other makes (link below). So it's complicated. What about sex? Tesla owners lean WAY toward the male side (again, link below). What about owner attitudes? There are stereotypes about BMW owners, for example. There's a Tesla sterotype too, and it's demographically supportable: https://www.themanual.com/auto/study-reveals-tesla-owner-demographics/ What if it turned out (I'm not saying that this is true, just spitballing here) that Tesla owners were more likely than others to have something in common with Elon Musk? By this I mean emotionally stunted, impulsive, angry, thoughless, antisocial. Those aren't qualities that make a safe driver. So again, it's complicated. There have to be reasons that Tesla drivers have more accidents than Toyota drivers. How many of them are the car, and how many the driver? I don't know. You? Regardless of the causes, it's an interesting statistic, not the least for what those kinds of numbers can do to your insurance rates. It's also not the kind of PR that Tesla needs right now. David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey To reach me, don't reply to this message; I won't get it. Use my offlist address here : http://evdl.org/help/index.html#supt = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Work-arounds to Linux systemd problems are so widely in use that when systemd developers try to fix the problems, they break Linux systems by breaking the work-arounds. Some systemd bugs are being used as features by enough distros and users that fixing bugs can cause widespread breakage. Systemd can't be fixed. -- Andy Prough = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = _______________________________________________ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/
