Out west, we have the giant hydrosystems like hoover dam and bonneville power,
but interestingly enough i learned that when they were being constructed it was
during the depression and run the by the government and corp of engineers, but
there was also the issue of the power lines. Apparently there those that
wanted the power lines to be government constructed and controlled as well and
those that wanted private industry to have control. I guess we have a mixture
now. IMHO we seem to have some pretty low rates for power producers and a
very large part of the pie goes to the the utilities. I wonder if it would
have been different if the government was in a better position to market it's
own power via it's own powerlines?
Fast forward 80 years and we have a similar problem with net-metering. IMHO
the utilities around here aren't offering a very good price for power just sold
via contract, but net-metering is a far better deal. Anyway the point is that
the net-metering debates are often framed as private .vs. public, but my point
is that this debate has a long history. I hope net-metering doesn't go away.
On Thursday, April 24, 2025 at 06:30:57 PM PDT, Mark Hanson via EV
<[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Folks,
That's similar in Virginia, a homeowner pulls his electrical permit after
the power company pre-approves the solar system size based on the last 12
months KWH usage and 4.5 sunny hours per day. A 10KWAC system is 45 KWH
daily for example. I'm an EE and master electrician as CIMA volunteer
insurance desires for our volunteer club, see www.REEVAdiy.org . We do a
solar installation every other month, more this year since folks are afraid
of the 30% tax credit going away and AEP wants to copy California and get
rid of NET metering. Next year, probably crickets...
Have a renewable energy day,
Mark
Mark E. Hanson
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2025 18:49:31 +1200
From: Bill Dube <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: [EVDL] Homeowner's Permit (was: Dumped by two solar
providers.)
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The rules for what you can do electrically without a licensed electrician
vary wildly from jurisdiction to jurisdiction. Every city, town, county, and
state has different permitting regulations.
In general, a homeowner can go down to the local municipality and get an
electrical permit to perform (most) electrical work for a single-family
residence that he owns.? You can't typically do this for a commercial
property or a multi-family property, however. They typically restrict you
from installing a replacement electrical panel. The procedures for doing
this and the specifics vary enormously.
The requirements can go from:
?"Here's your electrical permit. Let us know when you want us to inspect
your new electrical service and whatever else you have done.
Feel free to ask us questions."
to: "Take this _insanely_ complicated written test. (i.e. 'Is a grounded
bushing required on service entrance equipment when there is a concentric
knockout on the meter enclosure?') If you somehow manage to pass this test,
show us your detailed blueprints and we might issue you a permit,
eventually."
to: "Absolutely not. You MUST hire a licensed master electrician to replace
that damaged receptacle."
??? Basically, it all depends on how heavily the trades have lobbied the
local politicians.
Bill D.
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