You need to better describe your system and goals.  Is this grid tied or stand 
alone?  You imply that it has a battery - true?

What are you trying to accomplish, and what interaction are you expecting 
between the two high power loads you mentioned and the PV system?  I would 
certainly not expect any smarts on the part of the toaster over - it's simply 
going to expect a steady supply of 120 volt AC power at whatever current it is 
drawing.  Likely the same with the EVSE - except I assume it is expecting 240 
volts.

Jim



-----Original Message-----
From: "Ron Solberg via EV" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, May 9, 2025 08:07
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: [EVDL] PV/EV Load

Hi, 

This is about the interactions and components of a presently working
OutBack 3K PV system mounted on the roof of our home. As we search for
ways to manage the load for the system we are curious as to what AC
loads we can use. Here are two examples that have raised questions: 1.)
Grizzly 8Kw EVSE 2.) Cuisinart toaster oven 

We have charged EVs here at J&R housing since 2010 with no problems
using ClipperCreek EVSE as a service and for our 2018 Tesla. Recently we
installed an OutBack 3 Kw PV system and then a 8 Kw Grizzly EVSE as a
load to charge our 2018 Tesla. The system works, but the Grizzly system
does not interact with the OutBack system in a convenient way. As an
aside, we derated the 48A to 24A with a 30A breaker. We are pleasantly
surprised that a 5A feed setting adds up as clouds come and go to manage
power through the OutBack PV/Grid/48V battery system. It all works well.


The system works. My question is about convenience, sharing and
curiosity. The folks at Grizzly could not help me and I did not contact
OutBack but I am guessing that the electronics of the two systems
conflict in such a way that I have to manually use the Grizzly by
switching it at the breaker and or on occasion (briefly)add as needed, a
heater load to the OutBack service to get the Grizzly to function as I
watch its status by a series of displayed colored lights. I wonder about
the PV controller/48V battery/sun-cloud feed to the inverter. 

The electronics of the Cuisinart Toaster Oven also raises questions
about the OutBack AC output. Spikes/more data/forget it? Good old DC
loads? 

As a retired physics teacher who understands much of the electricity of
Classical Physics and wonders about the uncertainty and relativity of
Modern Physics, I cannot help but wonder if the issue I have encountered
with my EV/PV/EVSE is of interested to anyone or has a practical
solution. Since I took advantage of their sale price I have a second
Grizzly unit to swap out but I was not encouraged to do that by the
Grizzly engineers. 

Thanks,  

Ron Solberg
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