Are we positing that there are a bunch of folks who are smart enough to figure 
out how to build an EV, but not smart enough to figure out how to get a web 
browser to load a doc with http?

Sites don't start serving docs with https just by changing a setting.  Someone 
with admin access to the server needs to do the work to get https working, and 
then the routine maintenance to keep it working as certificates expire, etc.

Best regards,

Kevin


> On Jul 2, 2025, at 20:19, Ron via EV <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> They don't need to be, but it's become very impractical for users when a site 
> doesn't use HTTPS.
> 
> Bad website practices combined with consumer confusion over what "secure" 
> actually means has led some browser makers to just deny HTTP by default. The 
> others typically make you jump through hoops to access HTTP.
> 
> It's even starting to become a problem for accessing resources on private 
> networks or even the same machine.
> 
> Even some home routers are coming preset to restrict HTTP traffic on the WAN 
> (internet).
> 
> On July 2, 2025 6:19:31 p.m. CST, EV List Lackey via EV <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>> On 2 Jul 2025 at 11:03, EV--- via EV wrote:
>> 
>>> why are links to EVDL not secure?
>> 
>> <shrug> I dunno.  Do they need to be?  What secrets do we have?
>> 
>> David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey
>> 
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