Again, Tesla sells it for $100 over-the-counter, and it's a better battery
IMO.   Usually in-stock, just walk into a Tesla center and ask.   (You
can't call them)

On Tue, Jul 29, 2025 at 4:59 PM Cor van de Water via EV <[email protected]>
wrote:

> I saw that the same size battery with the terminals reversed was much
> cheaper, so I ordered one and mounted it 180 deg rotated, so the terminals
> are close to the original location, the negative wire reached easily while
> I wanted to mount a wireless controlled relay on the positive terminal
> anyway, because I noticed that my 2013 S never sleeps and can run down the
> pack with up to 10 miles per day just sitting as there is no sleep
> hardware.
> Now I can push a button on a remote, which disconnects the 12V, the car
> goes dead and when it sits a few weeks it still has the same charge instead
> of showing 0 miles.
> Cor.
>
> On Tue, Jul 29, 2025, 4:43 PM Jay Summet via EV <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Not sure it's the size, it may just be inflation and taxes, as I paid
> > $263 for a "standard" sized battery for a Nissan Altima in the last
> month.
> >
> > Jay
> >
> > On 7/29/25 19:35, Mark Hanson via EV wrote:
> > > Thanks Phil etc.
> > >
> > > Apparently the non-standard size of these 12V lead batteries is very
> > > expensive.  Advance Auto just charged me $269 for each battery, 2020
> Bolt
> > > (Delco 9943 or H4xEV) and 2021 Tesla-Y (B24XEV), almost $600 total with
> > tax!
> > > Amazon wasn't much better, about $220ea.
> > >
> > > Lead has doubled in price in the past few years, shipping costs too
> > (since
> > > lead is heavy and diesel is expensive).
> > >
> > >
> > > Have a renewable energy day,
> > >
> > > Mark
> > >
> > > Mark E. Hanson
> > > 184 Vista Lane
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2025 10:50:08 -0700
> > > From: "(-Phil-)" <[email protected]>
> > > To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List <[email protected]>
> > > Subject: Re: [EVDL] Changing 12V Aux batteries in EVs intervals
> > > Message-ID:
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> > >
> > > 4 years is about the expected lifetime on average.  The big problem
> with
> > EV
> > > 12v batteries is unless they have a system to detect low capacity, one
> > day
> > > you are just stuck, and usually in a bad time/place in the middle of
> > > bad weather.   On ICE cars you get a warning when it starts to crank
> > slow,
> > > no such warning on an EV, so it's up to internal metrology, or it's
> just
> > > dead one morning.
> > >
> > > I'd say once it gets past the 4 year mark, it's worth replacing just
> for
> > > peace of mind unless you have a way to test it.  (Such as what Teslas
> do)
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jul 29, 2025 at 10:45?AM Jay Summet via EV <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Our leaf is a daily driver in Florida so 80-90 degree weather in the
> > >> summer. You can see a photo of the failed battery here:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> https://www.summet.com/blog/2019/05/03/nissan-leaf-12-volt-accessory-b
> > >> attery-replacement/
> > >>
> > >> It had blue crystals forming around the top of one of the terminals,
> > >> so was definitely outguessing / leaking under pressure.
> > >>
> > >> Jay
> > >>
> > >> On 7/29/25 13:27, Lee Hart via EV wrote:
> > >>>> I would not be surprised if it is almost dead. 5 years appears to
> > >>>> be about the standard runtime for most car accessory batteries.
> > >>>> [I've had the one in my Leaf and a Nissan Altima both die around
> > >>>> that timeframe..]
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Interesting. Maybe it has something to do with the quality of the
> > >> battery, the climate where you live, or how often you use the vehicle?
> > >>>
> > >>> Our 2013 Leaf and 2014 Prius Plug-in still have their original 12v
> > >> batteries. The original 12v battery in our 2001 Prius didn't get
> > >> replaced until 2012, and the replacement is still working. My 2010
> > >> Chevy Colorado pickup had the battery replaced in 2018, and is still
> > >> running on the replacement.
> > >>>
> > >>> The Leaf is a daily driver. The two Prius aren't driven often, but
> > >>> both
> > >> have roughly 1 foot square PV panels to charge them so the battery
> > >> doesn't go dead from sitting. Since the pickup is rarely driven, I
> > >> have a Battery Tender on it to keep it charged.
> > >>>
> > >
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