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Marco

On Fri, Dec 19, 2025 at 11:43 AM (-Phil-) via EV <[email protected]> wrote:

> The new Model Y supposedly can do AC export now, (I have not taken it's new
> PCS apart yet) and the Cybertruck can too.   All others cannot export AC
> but they can export DC.   There are now a smattering of inverter boxes that
> connect to a Tesla and use DC export to make AC.  However these are
> absolute crap, they are NON-ISOLATED, with one side of the AC line is
> swinging back at forth at full +/- pack voltage (square wave) while the
> other side is PWM'd.   Also be warned if you value your battery warranty,
> because Tesla has language in there that voids it if you use any kind of
> stationary power.
>
> ISO15118 Plug & Charge is a mechanism allowing the DCFC to securely
> authenticate the EV for billing, so you don't have to do anything but plug
> in.   Tesla has used a similar method from the start, basically letting the
> car handle all the authentication, while the supercharger is just a "dumb"
> device that will give power if asked.   Both the car and the supercharge
> log the session and report it to Tesla.  If one or both is "down" as far as
> internet goes, you can still charge, as long as the car can talk to the
> mothership at least once in awhile.   Even with ISO15118, many DCFC's still
> REQUIRE an internet connection before they will start, which causes the a
> significant amount of unreliability and hassle.
>
> 5 years ago I made these 2 videos:
> "Tesla Vehicle to Grid Debunked"
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXokJEzXwaI
> "UPDATE: Tesla V2G Part 2"
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkRk2OQI7RE
>
> On Fri, Dec 19, 2025 at 5:17 AM EV--- via EV <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > TEVA (Tucson Electric Vehicle Association) is have its monthly meeting
> > this Sat (we meet by online video) and one of the items on the agenda is
> > 'ISO15118 Plug&Charge'. I wasn't totally familiar with the ISO so I
> > searched it and in Wikipedia found this - "All Tesla vehicles since 2012
> > (before the release of ISO 15118-2 in 2014) have a proprietary version
> > of Plug & Charge.[7][11] Other proprietary solutions exist, such as
> > those developed by Paua.[21][22]"
> >
> > I vaguely remember a discussion about weather Tesla's could in fact do
> > vehicle to grid (V2G) and that Phil (ineineerix) providing schematics
> > that definitely proved that Tesla's cannot do V2G.
> >
> > Phil could you resend your info?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Rush
> > TucsonEV
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